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    So its time to upgrade my pole barn lights. These were in when I moved in and I'm tired of using trouble lights to get anything done. Any ideas on how to improve or pics of what you
    are doing would be greatly appreciated.

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      LED lighting is your best bet to get the most light without using very much energy. In that space I would do a mix of LED tube lights (similar to fluorescent bulbs) as well as COB lights set up in zones so you can light selected areas more than others as you want to.

      I have twin 300w COB lights in my garage and it makes it like daylight in there at night. The advantage is that the bulbs only use 30w of power each to make that much light.

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      • diymirage

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        Yup, I just redid my garage and converted all the old fluorescent tube fixtures to work with LEDs

        Snip snip to remove the ballast, couple of wire nuts to hook up the bases to the 110 and done
         
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        • 69conv

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          Nice. Where did you get them? Are they directional?
           
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          They are Omni directional and I bought them on Amazon. I have 2 in the 400 sq ft garage and six in the 1200 sq ft basement.

          They screw into standard bulb sockets so it was a no-brainer to replace them with these.
           
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            • 69FBCuda

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              Nice, too much of that and ye'll go blind
               
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                These two devices with 60watt EQUVALENT LED bulbs. Do this about 12-16 times and you will have to really adjust your eyes stepping out at night. 1B33CC48-1F6A-4CDC-849F-AD540FC941AB.png 67E68E5B-BE16-41D2-AA71-10C135F5658C.png
                I have been thinking about the same thing
                 
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                  Other bulbs are expensive. With my idea, the 60 watt equivalent LED bulbs are cheap as heck. 14.5 watt or equivalent per bulb.

                  Low electric costs.

                  Someone could get a twenty pack of bulbs for cheap. They last along time; any one fails-easy to return.
                   
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                  Eh 12-16 times means 120-160 ish in fixtures. Plus 36-48 bulbs at 14.5 watts a piece would equal 520-700 watts total.
                  Plus the price per bulb, 3-10 bucks a piece, you’d be looking at 4-5 hundred bucks easy.

                  Or do what we did, 4 of the ones linked above, 150 bucks and ten minutes of work and we had 40,000 lumens. And a total of 400 watts usage. In comparison, we replaced the old 4, 200 watt incandescent bulbs and maybe have 10,000 lumens combined using 800 watts.

                  More than one way to skin this cat, so shop around for sure.
                   
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                  Any chance you could show me your setup?
                   
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                  Sure, Hg on
                   
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                  Here’s an ok side by side comparison. The one on the left was a 200 watt florescent , compared to the one on the right, which was the one I linked above. That’s a 22ft ceiling peak. I’ll get some Better ones tomorrow as that is with just one installed. We now have all 4

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                  • 69conv

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                    I'm looking at the shadows on the wall from the first light being wiped out by the brightness of the led. Pretty impressive, thanks!
                     
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                    • dukeboy_318

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                      Yeah I was skeptical when my brother said, hey go buy these bulbs for 40 bucks a pop. I’m sold now.
                       
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                      I buy ten packs of LED bulbs for under $20 (about$16). I bought a 20 pack for less than thirty bucks. 3-400 bucks for bulbs is a ridiculous false guess.

                      But my fixtures are expensive, at first. Over $400 to run 48 bulbs.

                      800 lumens for an LED bulb equivalent since you are making me look it up, at 8-12 watts:

                      How to choose the right LED light bulb

                      “Say you normally use a 60-watt incandescent bulb, for example. You would probably want to choose an LED bulb that uses 8 to 12 watts and has a lumen rating of 800 to get the same illumination.”

                      For my 800 lumens bulbs to equal your excessive 40,000 lumens is STILL 50 bulbs on my part. And the set up per 3 bulbs is still $30 or so X 12 =$360 so sure, but they make 180+ watt (1600 lumens) equivalent LED bulbs too...

                      Will your product still be available in 7-30 years? Or obsolete like the ballast resistors used by my submarine’s fluorescent lighting?
                      Ever try to match an ‘off’ fluorescent bulb that was installed years ago at your local department store? Sometimes it’s time consuming.

                      If it brakes or dies early how easy is a return? Unlike locally bought bulbs.

                      Personally I think far less than 40,000 lumens is necessary, especially how you spread out the lighting.
                       
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                      4 ft. LED shop lights off Amazon. Its day time at night in the garage. Cut the meter usage in half for lighting. I don't know how many are in the garage. I never counted but there are quite a few. Since these pictures he put more on the walls. He does most of the work here at night. I couldn't imagine not having them now.

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                      I can’t predict the future and could ask the same about any thing.

                      These bulbs are available locally. Menards, Lowe’s, Home Depot, Walmart and Rural king all sell them here. Rural king is cheapest for the same brand as the others.

                      My 3-4 hundred guess was counting your fixtures and bulbs.
                       
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                      One thing I did that helped out getting rid of the drop light was put strip LED's on the inside of the upright support of my lift. Works great for under $15.00
                       
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                      • 69conv

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                        Hadn't thought of that, still getting used to the whole led thing. Can you show me what you did?

                         
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                        terrible idea, I would have to spend 2 grand on a lift first
                         
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                          Here’s in the daylight, with one , 24 ft by 16 ft door open. No lights on.

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                            This is a with the door closed, 2 Fluorescent lights on

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                              This is with 4 of them on, still have two more to replace. Doors closed. But I think you can get the idea

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                                I'm liken that. You are planning on using a total of 6? What square footage would 6 light?
                                 
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