Sources for Chrysler type wire terminals

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  1. Mattax

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    Found some on-line retailers for the 'mopar' style terminals.
    A couple places call them Packard 58. Need to confirm what covers.
    Only thing I don't like is one place claim the one covers 3 wire sizes; and the other place skips 16 AWG, and the third only carries one size?
    Eastern Beaver Open Barrel. Scroll down.

    The Repair Connector Store
    Universal GM Chrysler Ford Female Terminal Connector 20 18 AWG
    Universal GM Chrysler Ford Female Terminal Connector 14 12 AWG 5 Pack

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      Picked up "Pico" brand from local jobber. Females are 134-bp.
      FYI Pico also makes the fasteners for 67-9 cuda grills.
      Thanks Mattax
       
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        Good info. especially for Canadians.
        Here's the link to Pico's page for Packard 58.
        Pico of Canada :: Products
        Sales page says are a distributor of products thoughout Canada. If your jobber can get that, they probably can get anything Pico carries.
        The Repair Connector Store terminals are listed as Pico, so that's at least one US retailer.
         
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          I was planning to redo the bulkhead connectors and bought all my pieces on ebay. I think from 4 different vendors to get everything I needed at best prices.
           
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          Matt either get a kit or Rhoad Island wiring will sell individual ones. Packard 56 style.
           
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              I already have a collection of 56 series. Waytek Wire had min purchases, so I bought terminals by the bagful about 20 yrs ago.
              Now I'm looking to build a collection of Chrysler types.
              Looks like most are the same as some Ford and GM 'Packard 58'.

              Standard lists the tin-plated brass female terminals as CG49 for 16-14 ga, and CG36 for
              20-18 ga packages of 10. Chrysler part number 384601 regardless of wire size.

              Eastern Beaver linked above has the wider 3/16" terminals, like used on the headlights, but not plated. The originals on my '67 were plated.
              They also have crimps for splicing. That's handy, even if soldering.
               
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                For a removal tool I buy a dollar store nail file and grind it narrower. Buy 2 cuz you will lose one.
                 
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                  :rofl: ="Mattax, post: 1972250265, member: 29156"]I already have a collection of 56 series. Waytek Wire had min purchases, so I bought terminals by the bagful about 20 yrs ago.
                  Now I'm looking to build a collection of Chrysler types.
                  Looks like most are the same as some Ford and GM 'Packard 58'.

                  Standard lists the tin-plated brass female terminals as CG49 for 16-14 ga, and CG36 for
                  20-18 ga packages of 10. Chrysler part number 384601 regardless of wire size.

                  Eastern Beaver linked above has the wider 3/16" terminals, like used on the headlights, but not plated. The originals on my '67 were plated.
                  They also have crimps for splicing. That's handy, even if soldering.[/QUOTE]
                  Really they are 58? Always use 56!:rofl::rofl:Bought this removal tool kit on flea bay works great so far. Does most styles.
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                  LOL have used feeler gauges also!
                   
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                  • Mattax

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                    Seems they have a variety.
                    Not sure if Chrysler bought from Packard Electric Division or some other manufacturer and the connectors just have a resemblence. I'm starting to pay more attention to original markings, if any. Those manufactured by Packard (later Delphi) seem to marked PED.
                    I started to take note of these details when comparing questionable connections on the repop harness with my original from '67.

                    Examples:
                    Field Connector
                    Packard 56 style with retaining dimple (1990s repro Year One harness). Delphi 56 tin plated from Waytek next to it.

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                    Original 1967 Chrysler rolled style that looks like Packard 58, with Packard-Delphi 56 and a AMP 250 Faston style also from Waytek.
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                    Headlight terminals were wider rolled style for the 5/16" spades and tinned or what maybe what Chrysler calls 'silver plated' in the parts book.
                    1/4" terminals on the right for comparison.
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                      Actually learned something btoday, Only thing I ever noticed is some have that spring type tab that puts pressure on the spade and others don't.
                       
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                      FWIW. Here's some of the terminals from Eastern Beaver.
                      Shipped directly from Japan! Shipping price was about the same as within US. Go figure.
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                      Similar, but not quite the same as the originals.
                      Also bought some sealed grommets and in-line splice terminals.
                       
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                        What bout the round style for ignition and turn signal switches?
                         
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                        The twin locks ?
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                        or the pin type mentioned on the next page here? Electrical Wiring (Session 247) p. 13
                        Might be these ?
                        AutomotiveElectricalConnector-Chrysler.jpg
                        illustration from here: Automotive Electrical Connectors

                        I haven't had to get either of those. Someone else will have to chime in.
                        I'd hunt the usual places first and also see what other names or part numbers can be cross referenced.
                        Maybe the one at the bottom of this page ?
                        O.E.M. Terminals & Shells at Clips and Fastners.com (Auvco)

                        Two sizes of Twin locks shown near the bottom of this page: 12 gage, and 18 gage but no 14 or 16?
                        Special Delphi Connectors & Terminals : TheElectricalDepot.com!, Electrical Connectors and Much More!

                        and this reference:
                        18/20 gauge Packard Twin Lock Terminal
                        Manufacturer: Delphi
                        Manufacturer Part No: 2973915
                        Female Delphi Twin Lock Tin Plated Terminal
                         
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                        • Mattax

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                          Thanks to @67Dart273 for warning that sometimes Chrysler type and Packard 56 terminals don't fit in the connector cavities meant for the other.
                          That's exactly what happened today when replacing the Packard 56 terminal shown above with the Chrysler style.

                          Photo1. Packard 56 terminal poorly crimped to the field wire. (repop engine harness)
                          Wire crimp seperates the strands instead of compressing them. Possibly the terminal was for 14-16 gage wire, and the wire is 18 gage.
                          Second crimp is on wires instead of insulation and too big to grip.
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                          Photo 2. Yazaki terminal similar to Chrysler style installed.
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                          However the 56 connector would not lock solidly onto the new terminal. frowwn-gif.gif

                          Photo 3. Original 1967 Chrysler connector on left; Packard 56 connector on right. Not the same.
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                          The new Yazaki Chrysler style terminal locked in solidly to original 1967 connector. :)
                           
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                          • Mattax

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                            Bought some Aptiva/Delphi/Packard terminals from Mouser.
                            These are not exactly the same as the original Chrysler terminals, but probably close enough to get you a cigar.
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                            The two Packard terminals above are the ones with bright blue part numbers.
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                            The terminal for 12 gage wire was out of stock or had a minimum of 50 to order.

                            Some Tin Plated terminals are still available.
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                            The Aptiva drawing has the part number for no longer avialable terminals cross off. This includes silver plated versions.
                            Chrysler parts book listed silver plated terminals, which I had doubted were actually silver plated but rather described the color. Now I take that back.
                             
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                            • Mattax

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                              Yet a slightly different example of original Chrysler terminals. These look more like the Packard 58s (in the previous post) except not marked PED. Harness connector for a 1967 reverse lamp switch with selector on the column.
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                              And here's Packard 56 types in the connector for the fan switch.
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                              As has been mentioned before, the important thing in choosing which type of terminal is to be sure they seat and hold in the plastic housing.
                               
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                              I'm bumping this old thread as it is immensely helpful but also wanted to add that I found connectors that can be used for larger (if upgrading the Main or Ignition wire feeds in your harness to 10 Gauge) here:

                              Terminals- Double Wire Female 56 series
                               
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                                Any recommendations for the bulkhead connectors, and the male terminals also? Thanks
                                 
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                                  Any recommendations for crimping tools for these? Thanks
                                   
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                                  From a guy that’s pretty marginal electrical wise, this is a great reference thread. Should make it a sticky
                                   
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