Lonewolf3165
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65Val & OMM, I hear ya! And you're right.
OK, so if it's not needed, why would a company build one, and keep on building AND selling them if they weren't needed???
It is needed in some cases, other times it isn't. Just depends on the setup. Just because a company makes and sells something doesn't mean everyone needs it.
Perfect example of a linkage setup that does not require the adapter.
cool, thanks, that was the last thing in line that i could think of, was governor springs. ive had similar escapades as well with kickdowns. my holley 4175 spreadbore that was sold in the aftermarket world needed the holley adapter to work with the 3 piece kickdown, 318/904, but didnt with my chrysler, 400/727 with a one piece rod. Then on the flipside my 600 cfm 4160 from a 289 ferd, doesnt need any adapter at all...
You need this adapter as well, to provide the proper "arc" for the KD to travel through...
You also need to correct your fast-idle cam issue on that AFB in then top pic.
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You are 100% correct...I believe someone owes you an apology.
Or you can Jimmy Rig it.
I wasn't going to reply any more but since you think I need to apologize I guess I will. I stand by my position that this throttle adapter alone will not cure all the linkage issues he has. Did you look at his pictures of how the throttle cable is already so far in it nearly touches the carb now? How would it possibly work when adding another part that moves the cable out even farther?? By then the cable would be at a 45 degree angle to the linkage! He may need this part but he needs the correct throttle bracket first.
No apologies necessary. Johnny's pic shows it correctly...As you can see, the adapter doesn't just move the stud out, it puts everything in the right spot for functionality.... Thanks for the great pic , Johnny!!!
No problem 65....Couldn't leave you hanging. Just trying to keep it real.
... I stand by my position that this throttle adapter alone will not cure all the linkage issues he has. Did you look at his pictures of how the throttle cable is already so far in it nearly touches the carb now? How would it possibly work when adding another part that moves the cable out even farther?? By then the cable would be at a 45 degree angle to the linkage! He may need this part but he needs the correct throttle bracket first.
65, Your link just takes me to a picture, no part info. I looked around the streetperformancusa website and didn't find anything similar. How would I attach it to my ThermoQuad and how would it provide the proper arc for the KD, please?
The carb in that first pic is the Eddy 1406 that came on a 1' high adaptor to fit the Thermoquad manifold. It's gathering dust in the garage.
Another poster said I need an Edelbrock 1481. I bought one of those when I thought I was gonna use the 1406. It seems to be basically a spacer to move the eddy throttle plate out to where the KD linkage operates. The P.O. had just bent the KD linkage to meet up with the 1406. The ThermoQuad is wider than the Eddy and its throttle lines up with the KD linkage.
I truly do appreciate all the input, folks. For now I'm just gonna stretch that KD rod and see what that does. Thank you all.
ATB
BC
The biggest problem is when we take 2bbl parts and try to bend,fold,weld,lengthen,ect them to work for a 4bbl. The top kickdown rod,and the cable bracket are both different,between the two.
Many times there are guys on the site that go from a 2bbl to a 4bbl,and ask why doesn't my linkage work or line up right ? And then they show a pic of a 2bbl cable bracket on a 4bbl.
Trust me,I'm all for bending,fabricating,using my mind to make things work. That's great.But if you really want it to operate the way the factory did,you have to use the correct parts. I'm not sure what bracket you have,but if I read correctly,you bent it to get in the position it is in.
If I could give you any advice I would start on just the engine linkage....(A) 2bbl bracket holds the cable horizontal and a 4bbl holds it vertical....
(T)he difference between a 2bbl kickdown rod and a 4bbl.
The 2bbl is bent towards the intake,the 4bbl is bent towards the drivers fender. Get the correct 4bbl rod. Which I have by the way.
Once you get the top of the motor squared away,then we can work on the bottom. Hope this helps.
This thread has been kinda confusing, to me at least. Part of the confusion comes from the first two pics I posted back at the start of the thread, and the well intended comments from folks who know much more than I. The first pic was "as found" Edelbrock 1406 and throttle bracket and kickdown linkage pieced together from unknown parts, no Eddy adaptor, and parts bent to sorta work. The carb stud was at the front of the K/D rod, and I didn't know any better.
I blacksmithed the throttle cable bracket to align the cable with the TQ linkage when I retired the Eddy carb.
BC