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  1. Fisher

    Fisher Old Guy with a Cool car.

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    Well for me i do try to do as much of the work as i can and feel comfortable doing. I have learned 2 things, Horse power and body work and pant are not cheap. lol I blew the entire car apart, and assembled everything in my garage over a 4 year period, i just subbed out the stuff i wasn't comfortable with or had the skill set to do correctly. You cant build cars for nothing like you could back in the day.
     
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    • barbee6043

      barbee6043 barbee 6043 FABO Gold Member

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      Cheapest way to build our old cars is to start with as complete a car as possible, and as straight and rust free as can. Pay a little more . Like jst said, everything we do is expensive. But a good paint job can be done by anyone that wants to learn and can acquire the needed equipment. Good primers/paints are there and yes expensive but do not cost $1000 a gal.
      A $45 spray gun dos not have the same capability of a $800 gun, but a guy can shoot plenty go with the cheap gun.
      A $600 mig welder will do any body work and anyone can be taught to weld.
      Anyone can learn engine bulding. Better yet find a way to get a good running engine CHEAP and make it better CHEAP as possible. Deep pockets , just buy the best of everything when you do not need the best!
      Bodywork? Hard nasty work, that is why shops charge. Anyone can learn if they want. Mess up? Just redo it and fix it!! Are you anal retentive? Just pay a shop to do it and make it all perfect!! !!!??? lol
       
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      • Mike69barracuda

        Mike69barracuda Well-Known Member

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        Update. Decided entire car gets new RM Diamont paint ($450 per quart). All the AMd sheet metal cost me $$1,800. Both new qtrs, spare tire well and the trunk dropoffs. Paint, welding, other materials are coming to $6,500 grand total. My guy has been doing collision and restoration work for 50 years and he's a Mopar guy and owner of 3 ea. 1962 Fury's. 1st picture is current state before going in for some love. The others are happening to my car now. I'm limited on how many pictures I can upload. You get the picture/process.

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      • RAT ROD AL

        RAT ROD AL I know just enough to be dangerous FABO Gold Member

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        Or you can run wanted ads for NOS parts for every part on the car and have 100 G in a 25 G car when your done.
         
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        • des69mopar

          des69mopar FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

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          Way back when we all fell in love with these cars it wasn't about money, it's about building something out of passion, bragging rights racing or just plain showing off.
          I don't let every decision be ruled by a calculator .
           
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          • Mike69barracuda

            Mike69barracuda Well-Known Member

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            Agree. I'm ok with spending the cash on my 69 convert. It's my lifelong friend.
             
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            • 340challconv

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              Working on our cars is definitely a labor of love. I have owned my A-66 vert since 1979 and it is a "member of the family". The cost of labor for mechanics and body work is very high. I could not see myself letting it ever go! Understandably, no one wants to work for nothing. Unless you have deep pockets and a car worth 6 figures, it is difficult to justify the cost of having professionals do everything. I worked as a mechanic in the 1970's and my skills in this area are old; but perfect for my 50 year old Challenger. In my case, the body work is the issue. I am no body man, but I am updating my skills in the welding area, and go slow in making the body repairs. I learn as I go with the help of some Utube videos, and patience. I am also contemplating learning to paint a car. Single stage as was original and non-metallic helps. I was also thinking about talking to a local body shop who may rent me their paint booth on a weekend and use my general equipment. As it is, I have over 30K in mechanical and body sheet metal I have either saved or bought recently and giving it a shot. The restorations taking place on the forebodies, forabodies, forbodies and other forums are
              indispensable as we share our work and knowledge with everyone. If you have a decent mechanical skills, common sense, and take your time. It is doable. And a willingness to learn something new. Trial fitting my new two piece trunk; feeling good with it. Give it a shot. It is worth the financial benefit.

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              • Wheelsntires

                Wheelsntires 92 Stealth RT/TT 99 Ram Sport 00 Avenger 69 Dart

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                A great post!! The $$$ can be daunting!! The willingness to DIY is huge here. Sometimes we all have to admit that a task is beyond our capabilities, BUT... Trying and learning can be half the fun, and the pride of "I did this!" has a value beyond calculation!! There are a few things Ive learned over the years that can make a seemingly unaffordable dream become reality.
                *Network!! Meeting local people with resources/parts/skills is huge!!
                *Use your day job!! For instance, if youre an electrician, maybe the body shop guy needs his kitchen rewired... Trade your skills for someone else's!!
                *Be consistent. If your searching for a certain part, a car, or whatever, do it every day, a few times!! Thats the only way to catch "the deals" when they pop up!! (And they will!!)
                *Share your hobby. Even non car guys have an uncle with "an old Dodge" in their shed. Even that kid with the "fart can exhaust" Honda could be a source of somthing for your build. So dont discriminate!! Youll never find out if you dont talk to people about your interests!!
                *Reference materials. If you dont know somthing...crack a book!! Now we have online sources, youtube, etc so its even easier!! Beware of taking online stuff as gospel of course, and invest in proper manuals. But, fact is, you can do this. Dont be afraid to try!!
                *Be realistic with the end result!! If you arent going racing, your daily driver block doesnt need expensive align boring and torque plate honing!! Im not saying ignore flaws or cut corners, but "in-spec" works. 'Perfect' is the enemy of 'good enough'!!!
                *Lo-buck doesnt mean a poor job. Doing things on the cheap can still have excellent results. "$$$=quality" is not always true.
                *Rebuild instead of replace. You can save tons through a build if you learn to troubleshoot and repair things rather than replace them. Engines, transmissions, alternators, starters, radiators, distributors... Almost every part on your car can be repaired cheaper than replacing it!! Every dollar you save can be spent on things you cant/wont do!!
                These are just thoughts for someone taking the plunge. Ive been lo/no buck most of my life, and of all the great Mopars (5 68 Chargers, 70 Challenger TA clone, 67 Dart GT, all restorations) Ive had over the years, my crowning achievement was probably the under-$3500 68 Dart a decade ago... A reliable daily for years,with a 440 that dipped into the 11s on the weekends. No she wasnt done, still needed front seats redone, and paint, but more time and another $1500 would have seen her finished. The fact that did it all myself, super cheap, made her prettier in my eyes than all the shiny, perfect ones before her. So a tiny budget, coupled with your time and motivation CAN see good results!!!
                 
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                • mopar jimmie

                  mopar jimmie Mopar Jimmie

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                  This a is really good thread , You likely spent more then the car is worth but what you have is total piece of mind and knowledge of how your car was built and what parts were used , to me that priceless
                   
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                  • fratzog lover

                    fratzog lover Well-Known Member

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                    I miss Tony.
                     
                  • mini

                    mini Small Bore Long Stroke

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                    I'm guessing he isn't with us anymore? At least here his thread can live on
                     
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                    fratzog lover Well-Known Member

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                    Sadly Tony is now one of our gone, but not forgotten Legendary Members. I never met him, but he apparently put up a good fight with his health issues. God took him home a few years back.
                     
                  • 2 Darts

                    2 Darts A-body Addicted

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                    I have finally been able to justify the money I have spent on the present Demon I am working on. It is plain and simple therapy for me. I had paid a psychiatrist $70 an hour for consultation. i easily have over a thousand hours logged in on the Demon. That is time that may have helped the doc put a kid through school had i paid for it. I would not have had the conversations I have had with people I first knew through that car It has taken me coast to coast in search of parts and things to feed its restoration.
                     
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                    • Mike69barracuda

                      Mike69barracuda Well-Known Member

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                      My car is now in the garage. Minor assembly required. NOS 69 outer grill surrounds from Daves Cuda I restored my grills on my own.

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                      • missing linc

                        missing linc Loose nut behind the wheel

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                        Beautiful color combination
                         
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