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True, but the author of the article made it all about money.
When to walk away from a project car
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Back in Time
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He did..That's the reason I posted what I did. If it was about the money most projects would never get done.
moparmat2000
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Well thank God i have above average automotive skills. I can weld and fab, as well as work with wiring, paint, and upholstery, and engine/trans rebuilding. If a person is going to attempt to redo an automobile they got to know their limitations.
Sad part about my current project is that its been derailed for awhile while i help my wife get the kids grown up. I been getting back into it now as they have been getting older. In my case its not a matter not knowing how to to do the work, its a matter of no time to do it. I dont want to pay somebody to do what i can do myself. Plus i'm hyper critical about how stuff is supposed to be done and look.
Sad part about my current project is that its been derailed for awhile while i help my wife get the kids grown up. I been getting back into it now as they have been getting older. In my case its not a matter not knowing how to to do the work, its a matter of no time to do it. I dont want to pay somebody to do what i can do myself. Plus i'm hyper critical about how stuff is supposed to be done and look.
For those of us that have been in this hobby awhile, we recognize our skills, or lack of ... and those that prefer to pay someone to do the work or buy a "done" car,..... or have no place to work, not tools, no skills, ... or have no desire to learn, ... or our health might keep us from doing the work on said car..... our our financial or family agendas keep us from doing...... the list is long.
But, the novice unfortunately seems to be able to buy a project and have no idea of what is required to restore it or get it on the road, and what it takes in $$ and work.
But, the novice unfortunately seems to be able to buy a project and have no idea of what is required to restore it or get it on the road, and what it takes in $$ and work.
Back in Time
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If it has tits, it's a liabilititty.
He lost as soon as he bought a camaro, idiot.
dibbons
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The funny thing about the initial purchase price is that it hardly even matters if you were given the car for free, or paid one, two, or three thousand dollars for it. Twenty thousand dollars later, that difference in your initial "investment" turns out to be a drop in the bucket.
I agree, but staring out with a rust free , complete project saves lots in cost of sheetmetal, patch panels, somebody's time cutting, fitting, welding, and a complete car saves you from having to go find all those missing seats, grills, bumpers, etc etc!!! that adds up.
I have been thinking of another b body project if I found the right car... Saw a totally done 71 satellite bb car, for asking $ of 7800.....needs nothing.... yet every POS 71-4 b body project is asking $3000 give or take, unless it is a total turd, and not even a parts car!!
I enjoy building them, and I have enough cars here that I will not put $8000 in a car that is to me a bargain. I enjoy the build, done as I can afford it/ It s a toy and I don't need expensive toys at my age.
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I'm done with projects just to many miles on me.. limited in what I can do now, so I spend more on my initial purchase and make sure what is left to do is within my ability ..I still enjoy working on them almost as much as driving. I've seen a lot of guy who thought they could handle a project, buy it and then have it take up space in their garage for ages, because life, talent, or lack of enthusiasm got in the way. Sometimes they just throw money at it and lose the enjoyment of accomplishing something. After all it is a hobby. I agree with Clint, know you limitations, nothing wrong with that.
meathead66
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My biggest problem is not lack of time or of motivation but being too much of a perfectionist. My 69 Dart is or was never a perfectly built car to begin with and I’m trying to make it one. I need to get me a bigger hammer to make it fit then it should get done.
dibbons
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Perfectionism is a problem I think I embody. Reminds me of the old Army recruiting slogan: "Be All You Can Be". I try to restore each and every piece to a "new or better than new" condition. Don't know why I am so fussy.
be all you can be slogean - Bing video
be all you can be slogean - Bing video
This is where I am right now. Between my foot trouble and all the rest of my medical maladies, I rarely feel like or can work on anything for any length of time. Since I started back working, it literally takes all I can do to stay on my feet for my shift.......but I am pushing myself everyday because I want to be pulling the wagon again. Unfortunately, my hobby is suffering because all I want to do in my off time now is rest.
I relate. My dad was a perfectionist, and I also know several. They can drive me nuts. I have always been more "results" oriented.. I want to drive it and if driver quality, then it is OK with me. Care less about taking a car to car shows. My ego is not very big either.
I know how to make the paint/ body perfect, but not on my plate to have what is needed, not at age 70 can I do it to perfection physically anyway. So I get rid of rust, make it a straight as I can without killing myself or buying a $2000 compressor to run a straight file, making a spray booth, with GOOD lighting, etc....... If I sell the car, the buyer can make it perfect if so desired, or he can love it as is!!!
Dartswinger70
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Too many people are watching Richard Rawlings and other shows like that, they will try and flip any old car for big $$$. Good for some, bad for others. I suspect alot of these old cars will also be cut up for parts. I have also seen many an unskilled person take a car apart and not put it back together. Putting them back together where they work properly is the difficult part.
For sure!!
Mr Rawlin and Misfit garage etc show is Hollywood entertainment but how many people believe all his BS!? Thy give $9000 for a project I would not give 3000 for, but, then they spend 3 weeks doing a total rebuild and spend $20000 in parts and LABOR of what 5-6 guys, then find some money bags that gives them also a 10-20000$ profit!!!! OK Hollywood!!
dibbons
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That's true, one would think our own "budget" builds would be the money makers. Not so. You would think at least some of those TV builds would lose money, but no.
I figure those guys make some good $$$ providing that show!!! and, People will give more $$$ for a "restored" car from those guys than for that same car from average Joe!! I dislike anythng that runs up the price of projects OR restored cars. It should be a hobby.
If rich man can buy a hemi Cuda and send it off to the high $ resto shop, then flip it for a profit, let him at it. We all have a pretty good idea what a full correct pro resto costs. But please let s common guys have our toys and be able to afford them, period.
If rich man can buy a hemi Cuda and send it off to the high $ resto shop, then flip it for a profit, let him at it. We all have a pretty good idea what a full correct pro resto costs. But please let s common guys have our toys and be able to afford them, period.
sireland67
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I quote from a guy I worked for years ago, "The best car I ever bought was none I still have money in my pocket"
I build all my cars myself, but I am also over my head, too many projects, not enough time to do them, so each one gets a little time, but in return, nothing ever gets finished.
I build all my cars myself, but I am also over my head, too many projects, not enough time to do them, so each one gets a little time, but in return, nothing ever gets finished.
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