Another good point. Probably the best one.
Who's the idiot that deleted rear bumpers on new cars??
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the car you posted literally has lights in the bumper and above at standard height
So let me see if I can wrap my head around this logic: this is genius design in all the TOTALLED car photos below, but cars with real back bumpers is ignorance..... Ooooookkkkkkk.... got it..... So who's the ignorant person here??
Now that's just a BIG pile of stupid.
The money has got to come from somewhere. I can only imagine what insurance premiums will be.
They have helped save more lives than any solid bumper ever. But you already know that.
MopaR&D
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All I know is, I don't know, who knows? Ya know?
Reading this thread I couldn't help but be reminded me of the people who are like "we didn't have ABS or crumple zones or seat belts bAcK in MY dAY and we turned out fine!" Yep, except for all the ones that died or ended up paralyzed and everyone else forgot about. You just got lucky.
Hey, reading comprehension genius, You asked openly if SAFETY was something that was phased out......We all agree(if You actually read & comprehended My last post) that the amount of damage/cost to repair is fooking ridiculous.....these new vehicles are safer than any vehicles in history, nothing to do with repair costs other than airbags etc., But collapse of the outer structure is part of the energy absorbing package to minimize occupant injury, it just is, if You don't understand that part I can't help You. The real issue is the low speed damage,...that amount should NOT be required to provide protection. The other point was directed at the 5mph bumper subject,....So let me see if I can wrap my head around this logic: this is genius design in all the TOTALLED car photos below, but cars with real back bumpers is ignorance..... Ooooookkkkkkk.... got it..... So who's the ignorant person here??
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TT5.9mag
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His comment was in regards to you not letting your family anywhere near new cars without rear bumpers. And the ignorance that you think cars without bumpers are not safe. Sure they total easily when in a small accident, who gives a **** if less new cars are on the road really, except the dummy paying for em? But to say “my family is not going anywhere near one of those (cars without rear bumpers)” because you think they are unsafe is wholly ignorant.So let me see if I can wrap my head around this logic: this is genius design in all the TOTALLED car photos below, but cars with real back bumpers is ignorance..... Ooooookkkkkkk.... got it..... So who's the ignorant person here??
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TT5.9mag
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All of those cars have 3rd brakelights WAY up high. Just saying
Yunick13
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I need to pay closer attention. I saw a Hyundai tonight. The brake lights were on top and the turn signsls were low on the bottom of the bumper. Like this.
It's still a dumb idea.
There is no reason a driver should be so close to the rear of a car that they can not see the mudflaps. And then some.
The problem here is, if You're looking only at the car in front of You, it's going to lead to an accident in crazy heavy traffic situations. Try driving inbound on the Parkway West down Greentree Hill headed into the Fort Pitt Tunnels in Pittsburgh,......lol,....You'd better be looking at least 6 cars ahead of You, and yes, seeing fooking turn signals as far up as possible is actually important. The 2 lanes that merge parallel to those for Rt.51 on & off right before the tunnels have the delightful combination of merging traffic across 4 lanes & impatient wackos who have to play Ricky Bobby,.......why would anybody insist on making stop or signal lamps more difficult to see, ...like you know ...I've NEVER EVER seen an inoperative High-Mount stop lamp....
No there certainly isn't, but so many people tailgate nowadays. It's probably about the most dangerous thing you can do.
Interesting. I cant believe the posted pictures of turn signals are that low. What you posted is nothing I will ever experience. I'll add you to my prayers.The problem here is, if You're looking only at the car in front of You, it's going to lead to an accident in crazy heavy traffic situations. Try driving inbound on the Parkway West down Greentree Hill headed into the Fort Pitt Tunnels in Pittsburgh,......lol,....You'd better be looking at least 6 cars ahead of You, and yes, seeing fooking turn signals as far up as possible is actually important. The 2 lanes that merge parallel to those for Rt.51 on & off right before the tunnels have the delightful combination of merging traffic across 4 lanes & impatient wackos who have to play Ricky Bobby,.......why would anybody insist on making stop or signal lamps more difficult to see, ...like you know ...I've NEVER EVER seen an inoperative High-Mount stop lamp....
Lol, thanks, believe Me...I wish I didn't have to experience it either....lol....
Jarlaxle
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That's not new. There have been brake lights in the rear bumper of cars since at least the 70s.
Yeah, Chevy Bolts are weird
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/0...ail-lights-are-not-where-youd-think-theyd-be/
But they all have high mounted 3rd brake lights as well.
That Kia’s brake lights are not the low mounted lights. This video shows an issue but it clearly identifies the brake lights as well
So let me see if I can wrap my head around this logic: this is genius design in all the TOTALLED car photos below, but cars with real back bumpers is ignorance..... Ooooookkkkkkk.... got it..... So who's the ignorant person here??
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Yeah, you’re still the ignorant one.
Again, all of those cars have bumpers, they’re just blended into the bodywork like pretty much h all modern cars. And some of those pictures show quarter damage anyway, so an external metal bumper like you want wouldn’t have helped anyway.
I also suspect you don’t know for a fact all of those are totaled. But, even if they were, it still has no effect on their safety performance. Repair price and occupant safety are not the same thing.
TT5.9mag
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It’s very likely that the easier it is to total a car the safer it is. You know, conservation of energy and all that stuff? New stuff is designed to come apart and shed energy to protect the occupants.
Exactly.
It's not just likely, it's directly proportional. All of those impact areas are designed to deform and absorb energy. Which makes fixing them more expensive because you have all that stuff to replace. And, it's over engineered safety stuff, so, it's even more expensive to replace.
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
My attempt at subtlety was lost.
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