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anything i need to know before i do...or any good reasons NOT to go this route?
 
I have seen a couple of guys sell off their kits because they wanted to "upgrade" to Wilwood or similar. Personally, I think adding front disc brakes is a great idea, if it works it works. I have never tried the Scarebird stuff, but it looks viable.
 
I love the upgrade on my A body.
I run small wheels and had no desire to do wholesale changes, just wanted a upgrade.

I got the plates from scarebird and ordered the lines, mc, calipers and rotors through rock auto.
I kept the small bolt pattern and was no problem in drilling the rotors.

I'd do it again no problem.
 
i bought a kit for my D100 but haven't gotten a chance to do the install yet.. its nice because it uses all common off the shelf stuff.
 
Before you do check out Pirate Jacks first. I had scarebird years ago.
Just did my 65 dart project fronts with PJ. still using stock UCA's
Not a plate system, has new spindles etc.
IMO better all around set up for the $.

Dave
 
diymirage said:
anything i need to know before i do...or any good reasons NOT to go this route?
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I've done a few of scarebird kits and they all worked great. (2 66 darts. 65 plymouth,69 and 70 charger and 3 70 challengers)
the one advantage over most kits is that you can go to ANY parts store and get parts of you need them for your brake repair if you need to. It's sort of hard having you ride down because you gotta wait a week or so for XYZ company to ship you a custom part. But that's just my opinion and the reason I went to scarebird vs others.


I seem to remember seeing a post on here about one of those kits (NOT scarebirds kits since they use the original drum brake hub) that were SBP having problems with the center register VS the wheel they wanted to use and couldn't. I have since changed a master cylinder from a 73 dual master to a later smaller bore on the 69 charger to soften the pedal up a bit for a more luxury feel to the car.
 
thanks for all the advise guys
sure makes me feel better

anyone happen to be running 14 inch slotted mags with them?

mycuda said:
Before you do check out Pirate Jacks first. I had scarebird years ago.
Just did my 65 dart project fronts with PJ. still using stock UCA's
Not a plate system, has new spindles etc.
IMO better all around set up for the $.

Dave
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got a build thread on that?
 
I had a Scarebird kit on my '60 Dart. It used 1999 Ram calipers which has a single huge piston. I tried a few masters with it and never did get it to feel balanced. Maybe it would work better with power brakes, mine were manual. I wound up swapping to a new Magnumforce / Wilwood setup for the Forward Look cars.
 
does anyone know if the PJ is a full kit?
does it require any machine work (like pressing on bearings)

and most importantly, would it fit 14 inch slotted mags?
 
diymirage said:
thanks for all the advise guys
sure makes me feel better

anyone happen to be running 14 inch slotted mags with them?


got a build thread on that?
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No build thread. I went LBP, supposedly can run 14" stock rallys with a slight grind on caliper
bracket. Would investigate if thats your setup.
I have mock up 14" rallys on it now,i didnt have to grind anything? Maybe not a stock rim.....?

Dave
 
abodyjoe said:
DBK6272A-40 - 1962-1972 Mopar A Body Small Bolt Pattern Standard Disc Brake Conversion Kit

whats it use for calipers and rotors? is it common off the shelf stuff or special stuff you can only get from them?

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Those look like standard '73+ sliding calipers which were used on both the 10 7/8" disc and 11 3/4" disc (don't quote me on those 2 exact sizes, I might be a little off).
So the kit you linked just uses standard '73+ LBP disc brake parts, but gives you a SBP rotor. That's a great idea imo if you need to keep SBP.
Those sliding calipers were used for a long time, so they'll be around and are inexpensive. I've experienced fantastic performance with them on any car I've installed them on.
 
abodyjoe said:
DBK6272A-40 - 1962-1972 Mopar A Body Small Bolt Pattern Standard Disc Brake Conversion Kit

whats it use for calipers and rotors? is it common off the shelf stuff or special stuff you can only get from them?.
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This kit is off the shelf stuff and repop spindles and caliper brackets etc... The only thing I don't like about this one is that the use a sleeve adapter to go over the upper ball joint stud to fit the new spindle. The kit would be even better if they included large ball joint upper control arms and a large ball joint too. Or at least had an option to buy seperatlley.
 
ok so it uses all 73-up repop stuff with a sleeve for the upper ball joint.. are they special rotors then to give you small bolt using 73-up spindles then?
 
4mulas said:
The kit would be even better if they included large ball joint upper control arms and a large ball joint too. Or at least had an option to buy seperatlley.
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plenty of aftermarket upper arms out there that will work..
 
I got the scarebird kit on my 63 dart works great. If you can drill buy the rotors yourself if not theirs are a good investment. Im just usuing a dual master cylinder and prop valve and i love it. I had to grind the caliper a little bit to get my steelies to work sorry i cant help you on the mags.
 
I read a lot of good things about "scarebird" but the one main reason I went with b-body spindles (73 Charger) and stock type rotors and calipers is that I depend on my car for daily driving. I bought of pair of good used LBJ UCAs here on FABO. If the brakes need work my "daily driver" is down :( ..... until I can order and receive the parts I need. But with stock stuff I can run down to the local auto parts and get what I need (immediately) for a good price.
So, for me, it came down to......do I need the car everyday or can i afford to have it sit while I wait on parts??? If I can afford to let it sit then the after market stuff would make more sense. Most of the modifications I make to my cars is based on whether I need it daily or if I can let it sit for a week or two waiting on parts.
I built a '46 Chevy for my son and he drives it every day (non stop) so I need to be able to get any part for it right away. The car I built for my daughter ('59 Studebaker Silver Hawk) is also driven every day to school or work so it's important that it can be fixed quickly. My '69 Barracuda is no exception.


MY TWO CENTS...............
Treblig
 
I drive my dart everyday, the scare bird stuff is off the shelf stuff at almost every auto parts here with the exception of the rotors which i just keep an extra set in the garage
 
Treblig said:
I read a lot of good things about "scarebird" but the one main reason I went with b-body spindles (73 Charger) and stock type rotors and calipers is that I depend on my car for daily driving. I bought of pair of good used LBJ UCAs here on FABO. If the brakes need work my "daily driver" is down :( ..... until I can order and receive the parts I need. But with stock stuff I can run down to the local auto parts and get what I need (immediately) for a good price.
So, for me, it came down to......do I need the car everyday or can i afford to have it sit while I wait on parts??? If I can afford to let it sit then the after market stuff would make more sense. Most of the modifications I make to my cars is based on whether I need it daily or if I can let it sit for a week or two waiting on parts.
I built a '46 Chevy for my son and he drives it every day (non stop) so I need to be able to get any part for it right away. The car I built for my daughter ('59 Studebaker Silver Hawk) is also driven every day to school or work so it's important that it can be fixed quickly. My '69 Barracuda is no exception.


MY TWO CENTS...............
Treblig
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so you went big bolt? the OP wants to keep small bolt...

other then the mounting bracket (if that breaks then there is something seriously wrong..lol) and having to redrill a rotor all the scarebird stuff is common (more common then mopar) over the counter stuff. scarebird sells the redrilled rotors and i'm sure you could have them in a few days.. probably tells ya in the directions what rotors they are and you can probably order and drill them cheaper then the ones they sell.. if it was a DD then i'd just buy 2 sets or rotors (the part that will take a little more time) and keep a set on the shelf just incase..
 
1963dartgt said:
I drive my dart everyday, the scare bird stuff is off the shelf stuff at almost every auto parts here with the exception of the rotors which i just keep an extra set in the garage
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what are the rotors? something common i'm sure thats just redrilld right?
 
I think 92-95 toyota previa rotors. When i need to drill a new set i take one off flip it ontop of an undrilled one bolt them together and drill out the new holes.
 
I tried with the paper template once and i trashed a rotor broke down and bought a set from them about two years ago and been drilling them ever since.
 
1963dartgt said:
I think 92-95 toyota previa rotors.
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What is a previa? Never heard of it. Not that the thought of putting toyota parts in my Mopar particularly thrills me in the first place. :wtf:
 
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