dibbons
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Station wagon would seem to be the best body style to fool the masses, four door next in line to that.
sleepers....how fast and how plain before it is one?
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diymirage
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what about fords?
you'd never expect one of them to be fast
in fact, i went to a car show today
it ran from 4 to 7
around 5.30 all these mudstanks start pouring in...i guess they went as fast as they could
you'd never expect one of them to be fast
in fact, i went to a car show today
it ran from 4 to 7
around 5.30 all these mudstanks start pouring in...i guess they went as fast as they could
There's a sleeper. You wouldn't expect that from that Valiant.
turbofreek
batcrap crazy racing team
but it wouldnt out run much of anything today. back when...sure i would agree fully. but in todays world of fast cars out the factory gates. it is much to difficult to spot a fast car vs a monster fast car. even with wheels and a cage it is hard pressed to know for certain. if you are dealing with a car like abodyjoes or one like mine with big twin turbos and 1000+hp street killer
How about a stock 2006 Rav-4. It was the fastest production Toyota made that year. 270 horsepower.
diymirage
HP@idle > hondaHP@redline
Being the fastest Toyota is kinda like winning the special Olympics
Treblig
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Now that reminds of a joke that a Harley owner told me many years ago. He said that he hated Japanese motor cycles, I told him that I had heard that they ride real smooth compared to American bikes. Then he said that riding a Japanese bike was like making love to another guy (of course he used much more graphic language), he said, it might feel good but you wouldn't want anyone to see you!!!
diymirage
HP@idle > hondaHP@redline
I've heard that about mopeds and fat chicks
New cars don't count. There are a lot of sleepers out there. SRT8 Jeeps are an example.
Sleeper is a old term probably came about in the 60's A 4 door 64 Polara with a dual quad 426 Wedge would be a sleeper.
Sleeper is a old term probably came about in the 60's A 4 door 64 Polara with a dual quad 426 Wedge would be a sleeper.
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to me, a sleeper is something that runs a lot faster than one would ever expect. So, if it looks like a ..... examples:
- 100% bone stock 340 Duster, wheels, tires, exhaust manifolds, etc., and it clicks off a 12.10 at 110 mph, that's a sleeper.
- Or a typical cast head small block at a local car show, ya know, headers, sun pro tach, full interior, traction bars with a 60 series tire, looks like a 13 second car but it goes high 10's, that's a sleeper.
- Your car, without the chute, but having a cage, I'd guess a typical 408 stroker running at least low 11's.... so yes, if you click off a 7 second 1/4 mile pass, then that's a sleeper. And those that say "you are not fooling anyone" are not being honest, because without the chute, nobody would guess 7's by watching it drive by. Even if they guessed 10's by look'n at ya at a stop light, they missed it by 3 seconds, so you'd be raising their eyebrows as well
Divenut
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While not fast by any stretch of the imagination. I bolted a GM Performance Supercharger onto my daily driver 2004 Pontiac Vibe (Was essentially a Corolla/Matrix). Only ran 8 lbs of boost (w/Piggy Back ECU, CAI and Pulley) but was enough to take it from a measly 109 whp to just under a measly 160 whp. Base ran 17.91 and the best with the blower was 15.80 with limited/no traction off the line. Slow by anyone's standards for sure, but it did surprise some "faster" cars on occasion from a roll. With the stock exhaust it was very quiet until I floored it and the blower whine sounded like a bunch of pissed off bees LOL. Certainly made my 45 min-1 hr each way commute to work much more enjoyable.
So I guess it could maybe be called a sleeper. Especially with the two car seats in the back!
So I guess it could maybe be called a sleeper. Especially with the two car seats in the back!
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turbofreek
batcrap crazy racing team
thank you sir. if i had a different brand many would be suspect for sure. however owning a dart nobody even the rare wise guys would guess a single digits street car from a mopar. add to it the ugly looking color patina, dosile idle i figured it wasnt a snoring boring sleeper but it was more of a"holy s$%# didnt see that coming" kind of sleeper.to me, a sleeper is something that runs a lot faster than one would ever expect. So, if it looks like a ..... examples:
- 100% bone stock 340 Duster, wheels, tires, exhaust manifolds, etc., and it clicks off a 12.10 at 110 mph, that's a sleeper.
- Or a typical cast head small block at a local car show, ya know, headers, sun pro tach, full interior, traction bars with a 60 series tire, looks like a 13 second car but it goes high 10's, that's a sleeper.
- Your car, without the chute, but having a cage, I'd guess a typical 408 stroker running at least low 11's.... so yes, if you click off a 7 second 1/4 mile pass, then that's a sleeper. And those that say "you are not fooling anyone" are not being honest, because without the chute, nobody would guess 7's by watching it drive by. Even if they guessed 10's by look'n at ya at a stop light, they missed it by 3 seconds, so you'd be raising their eyebrows as well
You mean like your OJ Getaway-snowplow?
diymirage
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moparmat2000
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Black or body colored steelies, poverty caps, and a rear rim offset that makes it look not so deep dished will help A LOT to hide it. Sorry brother that aint a sleeper the way it sits. Its a patina'd hot rod. Sticks out like a sore thumb.
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Sleepers look like this, they will put a hurting on your day, if you want to play.
skep419
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moparmat2000
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Engine needs to look scuzzy or play like its stock, or keep the hood shut.
moparmat2000
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Here is an eddy performer RPM with an eddy 750 that will go on the 360 for my 67 cuda notch that will be a 408 stroker. I ground off the edelbrock markings on the intake, used a commando type low restriction air cleaner with a spectre element in it, will put stock mopar filter instructions decals on it.
Plan to port match it up to a nice set of aluminum heads and paint em up. Also plan on using stock valve covers too, and the whole engine will be painted up 67 plymouth commando red. Only thing that will appear not stock is the hedman block huggers i will be using. With a stroker i can run a little less compression and slightly less hairy cam to keep the chop out of the idle and still get the HP and torque. This keeps it on the lowdown.
A sleeper is the whole package, engine needs to look the part too. I can lie if asked about the headers and say i did an engine swap from a slanty to a 273 or 318 and couldent find exhaust manifolds, so i used these block huggers.
Plan to port match it up to a nice set of aluminum heads and paint em up. Also plan on using stock valve covers too, and the whole engine will be painted up 67 plymouth commando red. Only thing that will appear not stock is the hedman block huggers i will be using. With a stroker i can run a little less compression and slightly less hairy cam to keep the chop out of the idle and still get the HP and torque. This keeps it on the lowdown.
A sleeper is the whole package, engine needs to look the part too. I can lie if asked about the headers and say i did an engine swap from a slanty to a 273 or 318 and couldent find exhaust manifolds, so i used these block huggers.
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500 cube nitrous fed 67 dodge station wagon tubbed with wheel well skirts , a 62 wagon would also work. lol
Unconventional
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We used to see a '74 AMC wagon at OCIR frequently. Big land yacht, wood grain, steelies, full interior 11.50s all night long.
dibbons
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Reminds of the time my step-brat (girl) beat my '72 Plymouth Satellite Sebring Plus project car (318/auto) with her 2004 Toyota 4runner four-wheel drive SUV (4.0 V-6 auto) by two full seconds.
Mar 30, 2016 Sonoma Raceway Wednesday Night Drags
4:44 PM Ody Rubi
R/T .286 .723
60 ft 2.905 2.455
330 7.826 6.824
660 11.920 10.513
MPH 60.06 66.97
1000 15.440 13.644
1320 18.413 16.384
MPH 75.79 82.10
skep419
No show, all go!
This one should get people fired up.
skep419
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