Tame my 4-speed Stroker....
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Yesterday you asked if I was calling back up, but I wasn't. But today it's you..... LOL
Not look'n to derail your thread. If I installed a clutch tamer, I would have no issue answering the question. Answers could be "I bracket race and looking for consistency" or the such. If you can't drive worth a hoot, that's a legit answer too. I was only asking. Carry on! 
j par
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There's a guy at Woodburn who races hole in the hood. He has a Corvair LOL with a front-mounted straight axel engine bosting a dual quad blower.. we lined up a couple years ago and had one hell of a close-run.. as always I walked over and shook his hand and thank them for the good run. he's an old-timer and has been doing this for a seriously long time and has a couple cars set up very optimal... I was very proud of the Kudos he gave me for giving him such a close run with a 4-speed...
I don't ever see myself doing this any other way...
I don't ever see myself doing this any other way...
j par
Well-hung Member
What's your question..Not look'n to derail your thread. If I installed a clutch tamer, I would have no issue answering the question. Answers could be "I bracket race and looking for consistency" or the such. If you can't drive worth a hoot, that's a legit answer too. I was only asking. Carry on!
Straightforward please..
Wow ! I stepped away and missed a lot of action! Lol
Yeah... I ran high 1.50s low 1.60s with my 73 340 4sp... but that was a while ago and when you add a 4” crank and a solid roller and 300 cfm ported W2s and Mcleod RST and spool and drag radials... its worth spending 180$ and a little time trying to prevent breaking the aforementioned parts.
Thanks for answering why you are installing one. So your leg combined with your intensity was a little aggressive and abusive on parts. Fair enough.
j par
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The obvious problem here is human error... I know there's no one that's going to come out here and just plain out say that they're perfect and can slip the clutch perfectly on give days on given tracks with given conditions. It's a tool like a trans brake a two-step, or anything else..
weedburner
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Last weekend at a big Ford vs Buick event, one of my 'tamer customers went 10.34, 10.32, 10.30, 10.36. Final round slip was 10.362 @ 127.89 with a 1.415 60' for the win.
Another 'tamer customer was out testing some 26x8.5 radials on his Mustang, 10.09 @ 128.98 with a 1.334 60'
Yet another had just installed my new all hydraulic system on his C6 Corvette. He got 5 1.43 60's in a row but didn't get a full pull due to power cut problem. Turns out the car's torque management system cuts the power output until a clutch pedal switch senses the pedal has fully returned after a shift. Next time out he's going to tape the switch down.
Did I mention Pat Norcia of Ram Clutches just picked up one of my new hydraulic systems for a 2019 Mustang
All the above cars have diaphragm PPs.
Grant
Another 'tamer customer was out testing some 26x8.5 radials on his Mustang, 10.09 @ 128.98 with a 1.334 60'
Yet another had just installed my new all hydraulic system on his C6 Corvette. He got 5 1.43 60's in a row but didn't get a full pull due to power cut problem. Turns out the car's torque management system cuts the power output until a clutch pedal switch senses the pedal has fully returned after a shift. Next time out he's going to tape the switch down.
Did I mention Pat Norcia of Ram Clutches just picked up one of my new hydraulic systems for a 2019 Mustang
All the above cars have diaphragm PPs.
Grant
7500 2-step and a 'tamer
Actually I have a 3 step Daytona Sensors CD-1
So I got that covered.
And yes the Tamer is being used to overcome my inability to modulate the clutch perfectly... its like the little blue pill for clutches !
I hope the pedal doesnt get any harder though...lol
j par
Well-hung Member
wait a minute what am I saying don't buy one of these things they're junk they don't work! LOL I want to be the only one using it..
j par
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Instead of going to the Final Four in 4-speed class at the Mopar Nationals again , next year I want to be in the final round. If this word gets out my competition might have one too...
Got it! For them, consistency for bracket racing is a must. Please understand, I think your product is great. I just seen it more of a bracket racer item for consistency rather than a street car. But I'm sure both can benefit. I understand "what" it does. Trying to see the "why" for each person.Last weekend at a big Ford vs Buick event, one of my 'tamer customers went 10.34, 10.32, 10.30, 10.36. Final round slip was 10.362 @ 127.89 with a 1.415 60' for the win.
Another 'tamer customer was out testing some 26x8.5 radials on his Mustang, 10.09 @ 128.98 with a 1.334 60'
Yet another had just installed my new all hydraulic system on his C6 Corvette. He got 5 1.43 60's in a row but didn't get a full pull due to power cut problem. Turns out the car's torque management system cuts the power output until a clutch pedal switch senses the pedal has fully returned after a shift. Next time out he's going to tape the switch down.
Did I mention Pat Norcia of Ram Clutches just picked up one of my new hydraulic systems for a 2019 Mustang
All the above cars have diaphragm PPs.
Grant
j par
Well-hung Member
And my question would be why not...
BWAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't get past what I quoted from you.... I could read no more!!!!!
So you know a guy with a chevy too.... BAHA
j par
Well-hung Member
No I don't know him I thank him for the race. I know of him.. and of course that Chevy story was totally for your benefit so you could relate...BWAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't get past what I quoted from you.... I could read no more!!!!!
j par
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And you conveniently ended your quote four spaces short of my LOL nice going...
Sorry, I didn't even read the rest of that post. I busted my gut.....
sounds of a rice grinder. lol7500 2-step and a 'tamer
j par
Well-hung Member
Well then you completely missed the point...Sorry, I didn't even read the rest of that post. I busted my gut.....
j par
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Oh well thread is trash Now Scooby-Doo Bop..
yellow rose
Overnight Sensation
That's not what it does. It slows down the pedal. Doing that changes the application of the clutch.
You do the same thing (and more) if you do it with an adjustable pressure plate. So it doesn't make it a half automatic.
Again, I've been screaming this for years. If you don't control the APPLICATION of the clutch, you'll go slow and break parts. It's that simple.
You can't be consistent doing it with your foot. That's why you need a two step and either an adjustable clutch or the CT.
I'd rather do mine with the clutch. You have more flexibility doing it with the clutch, and the pressure ring is always fully down against the disc.
yellow rose
Overnight Sensation
I forgot you are using drag radials. I don't think a CT or an adjustable clutch will help you with radials.
I haven't checked in a couple of years, but most guys is Stock are still running bias slicks.
There are some sticks running radials, but not sure how successful they are. If they ever let the FSS guys run a clutch, then we'll get some technology to use radials and sticks.
Slow the clutch down, keeping the rpm's up. So technically, it's another way to accomplish an adjustable pressure plate. Gives it the same function as a, per say, 8" converter?
yellow rose
Overnight Sensation
Technically...no. An adjustable PP doesn't slip the clutch, per se. The pedal is all the way out. The CT controls the speed at which the pedal comes out.
That's two different things. But if guys for whatever reason want to run a diaphragm PP the CT is the on,y way I know of to control the application of the clutch.
Why the love for that PP I have no idea. Other than cost, there is no reason to run that PP. That and idiotic class rules.
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