Nuclear versus coal

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Regardless, it is pretty difficult to argue against the tragedies in Japan and Russia...............Just imagine the chances if there were "that many more" nuke plants

I still think the long term solution some day will be solar and or wind, and water
 
67Dart273 said:
Regardless, it is pretty difficult to argue against the tragedies in Japan and Russia...............Just imagine the chances if there were "that many more" nuke plants

I still think the long term solution some day will be solar and or wind, and water
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If they had used the Canadian Reactors they wouldn't have such big problems. Our reactors have a ton of safeguards. My son is a Nuclear Operator and has told me all this info as well and it has been in the news as well
 
here's something funny to ponder, Chernobyl, in Russian (and Ukranian) means "Wormwood"
if you got a good amount of Bible knowledge that is one great rabbit trail to go down
 
diymirage said:
that is one great rabbit trail to go down
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others are megalithic architecture, millennial reign, and Job38.

As to energy; I just want not to freeze to death. If the electricity goes off, I got firewood. Mankind did without electricity for nearly 6millenia, and before too much more time goes by, I suppose we will be without, again. Get yur firewood in early boys, and store it where the neighbors can't find it.... cuz they're gonna be cold too.
 
Mark Wainwright said:
If they had used the Canadian Reactors they wouldn't have such big problems. Our reactors have a ton of safeguards. My son is a Nuclear Operator and has told me all this info as well and it has been in the news as well
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Just because "your" reactors have never suffered a dangerous failure, is no reason to assume "they wont" And there aren't all that many. Part of my point, which you ignored, is "what if" the world had many many many many many...............more of them around the world? Somewhere, some place, and earthquake, terrorism, fire, flood, whatever, "something" WILL happen.
 
67Dart273 said:
Just because "your" reactors have never suffered a dangerous failure, is no reason to assume "they wont" And there aren't all that many. Part of my point, which you ignored, is "what if" the world had many many many many many...............more of them around the world? Somewhere, some place, and earthquake, terrorism, fire, flood, whatever, "something" WILL happen.
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Earthquakes will mess anything up if their bad enough !
 
France 2019
France has 58 nuclear power reactors in operation, supplying 63 130 Mw(e), and one EPR reactor under construction at the Flamanville site. Nuclear power plants accounted for 71.7% of total French electricity generation in 2018, and about 90% of France's electricity comes from low carbon sources (nuclear and renewable).


Here in Calizulea we could use more dams for water storage and droughts, think hydro electric, but the meany Greene’s don’t seem to like dams.
 
Mark Wainwright said:
If they had used the Canadian Reactors they wouldn't have such big problems. Our reactors have a ton of safeguards. My son is a Nuclear Operator and has told me all this info as well and it has been in the news as well
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I think they just had a problem. And like all the rest they said oh wait no. That reactor near Toronto is waaay past it's lifespan. All that needs to happen to it is a loss of power. That could happen at any moment. A tornado would do it.
 
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magnumdart said:
I think they just had a problem. And like all the rest they said oh wait no. That reactor near Toronto is at past it's lifespan. All that needs to happen to it is a loss of power. That could happen at any moment. A tornado would do it.
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And the Elephant in the room. Spent rod Disposal.
 
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magnumdart said:
Yes, I'm just too literate sometimes. As a former nuc I told them they were insane about the time I started to comprehend E=mc2. Then I quit.
i prefer cars over reactors.
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Never too literate. I appreciate that.
 
Answer: salt/thorium reactor.

EDIT- not saying that solar/wind and geothermal are bad, just can't rely on them consistantly on a large scale.
 
67Dart273 said:
Just because "your" reactors have never suffered a dangerous failure, is no reason to assume "they wont" And there aren't all that many. Part of my point, which you ignored, is "what if" the world had many many many many many...............more of them around the world? Somewhere, some place, and earthquake, terrorism, fire, flood, whatever, "something" WILL happen.
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Nothing is fool proof but the Can-do Reactors are the safest but more expensive and that's probably why countries take the cheaper route. Nuclear costs 3 cents a kwh, solar costs 6 cents a kwh and windmills cost 8.5 cents a kwh. Has anyone looked at a field full of windmills and said "Oh aren't they lovely"?
 
Mark Wainwright said:
.......Has anyone looked at a field full of windmills and said "Oh aren't they lovely"?
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The folks that sell them, power distribution company, the land lord. Even "How dare you" Greta and the greenies until they have to dispose of the waste they eventually turn into.
 
People tend to look at reactor fuel as a chemical reaction. Most things are, and we can control them, much like what occurs in a combustion chamber.
Reactors of any type of fuel operate on an atomic level. Once the reaction begins it can never be stopped, except by time. Lots of it. No one knows for sure how many new elements we have created but probably a couple thousand. And when it comes time to get rid of them no one wants it.
Lawsuits have already begun all over. There will be more. Then we will find out how cheap it is. When the idea of generating power with uranium was first conceived they said it would be so cheap to produce it wouldn't be worth metering. Hmmm.
 
Mark Wainwright said:
Our reactors have a ton of safeguards
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They almost all do. They must be secret a though. I can't think of a single safeguard that can withstand 9000 degree temps.
Radiation weakens everything including concrete and steel. How can we safeguard against that?
 
magnumdart said:
They almost all do. They must be secret a though. I can't think of a single safeguard that can withstand 9000 degree temps.
Radiation weakens everything including concrete and steel. How can we safeguard against that?
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With the new 3X more powerful Cern collider they will probably create a black hole capable of sucking our entire solar system through a 1/4 inch even horizon.:D

Point is that we don't know what's going to happen sometimes until it happens the first time.
Remember, there was a disagreement between involved scientist that the first nuclear bomb explosion might continue the reaction through the entire planet.
AND they did it anyway.
 
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