Head gaskets only last a year...

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Once upon a time in the back days there was a stop leak that had a brown oily fluid with a bunch of pellets of material that was also a dissimilar metal neutralizer. It was used by Jaguar in all their engines from the factory it really worked and stopped the corrosion because of iron blocks, aluminum heads and steel gaskets. I can't for the life of me remember the name but it was available at NAPA and other parts houses.

Jim O
 
Fire rings shouldn’t be necessary at 13:1 on race gas. The cometics will hopefully help as well as the studs but I have to ask, are you seeing any detonation on the plugs or tops of the pistons? That will kill head gaskets quickly.
 
Muti layer gasket is my thought the expansion and contraction rate of alloy is cast is making the gasket ware out
 
Fire rings shouldn’t be necessary at 13:1 on race gas. The cometics will hopefully help as well as the studs but I have to ask, are you seeing any detonation on the plugs or tops of the pistons? That will kill head gaskets quickly.
I'd do it anyway, especially if he decides to have the block and heads surfaced.
 
Once upon a time in the back days there was a stop leak that had a brown oily fluid with a bunch of pellets of material that was also a dissimilar metal neutralizer. It was used by Jaguar in all their engines from the factory it really worked and stopped the corrosion because of iron blocks, aluminum heads and steel gaskets. I can't for the life of me remember the name but it was available at NAPA and other parts houses.

Jim O
Bars Leaks. It's still sold.
 
Bars Leaks. It's still sold.
Yeah that's it it really works for stopping the electrolysis created by the dissimilar metals, we also found to never use red anti freeze only the Prestone as it had a much better anti corrosion package and with the red it would eat under the hose connections and you could see red crystals at the edge of the hoses.
 
Yeah that's it it really works for stopping the electrolysis created by the dissimilar metals, we also found to never use red anti freeze only the Prestone as it had a much better anti corrosion package and with the red it would eat under the hose connections and you could see red crystals at the edge of the hoses.
I've seen that with the red too.
 
Fire rings shouldn’t be necessary at 13:1 on race gas. The cometics will hopefully help as well as the studs but I have to ask, are you seeing any detonation on the plugs or tops of the pistons? That will kill head gaskets quickly.
Not the problem. Thanks for asking. 26 degrees total timing. (Gen3 hemi)
 
Yeah that's it it really works for stopping the electrolysis created by the dissimilar metals, we also found to never use red anti freeze only the Prestone as it had a much better anti corrosion package and with the red it would eat under the hose connections and you could see red crystals at the edge of the hoses.
Drag race only motor. No anti freeze. Just water and water wetter.
 
Not the problem. Thanks for asking. 26 degrees total timing. (Gen3 hemi)
Then why is it knocking the gaskets out of it? Is the timing locked at 26? Or does it come in very quickly? Do you change the timing when track conditions change?
 
We run Bars Leak in all our SS cars
no matter which heads.

Also our Stock Eliminator cars with Aluminum
heads.

Once upon a time in the back days there was a stop leak that had a brown oily fluid with a bunch of pellets of material that was also a dissimilar metal neutralizer. It was used by Jaguar in all their engines from the factory it really worked and stopped the corrosion because of iron blocks, aluminum heads and steel gaskets. I can't for the life of me remember the name but it was available at NAPA and other parts houses.

Jim O
You’re correct in how good that style works. When I was a youngen there was an old timer (born in 1918) mechanic in town that used to buy those and only use the oil/ fluid in the bottle but not the pellets. He said that it was and excellent water pump bearing lubricant- claimed it could double the life of the water pump.
 
Then why is it knocking the gaskets out of it? Is the timing locked at 26? Or does it come in very quickly? Do you change the timing when track conditions change?
It comes in pretty quick. 26 is what it likes in cold conditions. I don't advance it this time of year, I just let it run a little slower. It's a bracket car so the E.T. doesn't matter.
 
It comes in pretty quick. 26 is what it likes in cold conditions. I don't advance it this time of year, I just let it run a little slower. It's a bracket car so the E.T. doesn't matter.
I definitely wouldn’t advance it, I’m suggesting it’s already got either too much, or it comes in too quick when certain conditions present themselves. You need to look very closely at what the timing is at peak torque.
 
How long do those builds last for you?
I freshen the heads every 50 runs or a bit more.

Try to check the bearings every year if raised a lot.

Re ring the engines around 250 runs or when leak down
tells us to do so if sooner.

It is a constant battle and cost us a small fortune as we race 11 Mopars,
plus a couple Jr. Dragsters in our family plus support the racing of several
of our friends race cars.
 
I freshen the heads every 50 runs or a bit more.

Try to check the bearings every year if raised a lot.

Re ring the engines around 250 runs or when leak down
tells us to do so if sooner.

It is a constant battle and cost us a small fortune as we race 11 Mopars,
plus a couple Jr. Dragsters in our family plus support the racing of several
of our friends race cars.
I'd like to get 250 passes out of the build and then do rings, bearings, valve job/springs and cam/lifters/etc as needed. This will be 1st time using Cometic head gaskets. Have used FelPro in the past with unsatisfactory results.
 
I'd like to get 250 passes out of the build and then do rings, bearings, valve job/springs and cam/lifters/etc as needed. This will be 1st time using Cometic head gaskets. Have used FelPro in the past with unsatisfactory results.
If you have aggressive camshaft you may well see a significant drop off (Tenth or Two)
going that distance on the springs and valve job.

You will like the Cometics = Research their suggestions on block and head finish.
 
If you have aggressive camshaft you may well see a significant drop off (Tenth or Two)
going that distance on the springs and valve job.

You will like the Cometics = Research their suggestions on block and head finish.
I run cometic head gaskets @ 12.9:1 with a surface cometic would say "not going to work".
I spray my head gaskets with 4 or 5 coats of copper coat and haven't had any issues with a ra of probably 75 (catch a fingernail on the surface). Cometic wants below 50 ra
 
I run cometic head gaskets @ 12.9:1 with a surface cometic would say "not going to work".
I spray my head gaskets with 4 or 5 coats of copper coat and haven't had any issues with a ra of probably 75 (catch a fingernail on the surface). Cometic wants below 50 ra
Aluminum heads? multilayer gaskets?
 
I freshen the heads every 50 runs or a bit more.

Try to check the bearings every year if raised a lot.

Re ring the engines around 250 runs or when leak down
tells us to do so if sooner.

It is a constant battle and cost us a small fortune as we race 11 Mopars,
plus a couple Jr. Dragsters in our family plus support the racing of several
of our friends race cars.
How many passes would you say you get in a year?
 

Our Stock and Superstockers are around 100 to 120 a year.

Our bracket stuff around 70 to 75.

The biggest worry for us is Valve Springs going away or breaking.
 
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