Heads for 440

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Speaking of the TF 240 heads, are they useable with the stock rockers and shafts and all the other stock stuff?
I can’t answer that one.
“Maybe”……..but you’d need longer pushrods even if the rockers fit.
Perhaps a call to TF would answer that.

Edit- does this mean the stock stuff def won’t fit?
Not in my mind…….but from their web page:

Trick Flow designed the PowerPort 240 heads to use all factory-style big block Mopar pistons, roller rocker arms, intake manifolds, and headers.
I’d put it in the “highly unlikely” category.
 
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You should decide on which heads you really want……then just save up until you’ve got enough $$$ to get them, plus whatever else is required to make the swap work.
 
I spoke to him about the sidewinders he sells a few days ago. He said he is out and doesnt know when he will have them again due to the Tarriff situation.
The heads Bruce Toth was selling are the same castings.
Perhaps he’s got some castings left.
 

You should decide on which heads you really want……then just save up until you’ve got enough $$$ to get them, plus whatever else is required to make the swap work.
I would REALLY like the TF 240, But the price after buying the extras would probably just be beyond what i am willing to spend..Now if they can use the stock shafts and rockers then maybe, but then there is the pushrod length issue i would need to figure out..Never dealt with that before and would have to figure out how to figure the length needed and all. The RPM's are probably the ones i end up with, just hope im happy with the improvement over what i got now.
 
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Determining the correct length pushrods is just part of engine building 1-0-1.
Been looking for videos on measuring to find the correct pushrod length and stumbled on this guys videos. Watched his review of the stealth, RPM and trickflow head..all he says in every video is that he feels sorry for us mopar guys because none of these heads flow what something as big as a 440 needs..If he knows what he is talking about, i wont bother with anything besides the trickflow... but he seems like a possibly biased chevy guy..lol..i dont know, here is his trick flow video
 
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Been looking for videos on measuring to find the correct pushrod length and stumbled on this guys videos. Watched his review of the stealth, RPM and trickflow head..all he says in every video is that he feels sorry for us mopar guys because none of these heads flow what something as big as a 440 needs..If he knows what he is talking about, i wont bother with anything besides the trickflow... but he seems like a possibly biased chevy guy..lol..i dont know, here is his trick flow video

Not having any luck finding a video on how to measure for pushrod length needed using stock rockers..only roller rockers..This is one of the only ones, but again, for roller rockers.
 
The stealth head is the best bang for the buck. imo
I was thinking that but looks like only a 20 HP gain from the stock heads to those according to the magazine articles where they tested them..The RPM was 20 more HP on top of the stealths, then the TF was 20 more on top of the RPM..
 
Any of the heads is a better choice than sinking money into old iron heads. A better valve job and a little port work is more than 20 HP as well as the other benefits of aluminum. 20 HP is still 20 HP and with a bigger cam the difference grows.
 
You can not look at a video and make a decision on how long your pushrods need to be, you need an adjustable pushrod tool to check YOURS. So after you actually get the heads that you buy on, then you will check yours. Also, any aluminum head is going to be lighter than steel and cool better.
 
You can not look at a video and make a decision on how long your pushrods need to be, you need an adjustable pushrod tool to check YOURS. So after you actually get the heads that you buy on, then you will check yours. Also, any aluminum head is going to be lighter than steel and cool better.
I know that, what i was saying is, i have always used stock stuff so measuring for a certain length pushrod will be new to me, so i got to looking for videos explaining how to do it and i could only find the video where he is using roller rockers..I didnt plan on using roller rockers so was saying i dont know how to set up and measure with regular rockers as regular rockers dont have the roller that would roll on the marked surface of the valve stem to see where it hits..
 
There's a set of Trick flows, rockers and pushrods for sale on FBBO for $4300 shipped. May not be able to use the pushrods. Look nice.
 
I was thinking that but looks like only a 20 HP gain from the stock heads to those according to the magazine articles where they tested them..The RPM was 20 more HP on top of the stealths, then the TF was 20 more on top of the RPM..
The thing that many don’t understand is, it’s not a guaranteed fixed gain between those various heads.
The milder the build, the less the demand placed on the induction, the less difference you’ll see with better heads.
The opposite is also true. The higher demand on airflow……the more the better heads will pay off.
 
The thing that many don’t understand is, it’s not a guaranteed fixed gain between those various heads.
The milder the build, the less the demand placed on the induction, the less difference you’ll see with better heads.
The opposite is also true. The higher demand on airflow……the more the better heads will pay off.
I understand, just using the difference between each head as a ballpark. I am hoping that between the closed chamber design and small bump in compression, better quench, more flow, and the weight loss in the front end will all lead to better performance.
 
If you go with the TF heads, it will be about 1 point of compression gained.

Totally Stock 452’s would be less of a head than the mildly reworked 906’s used for the EM comparo.
I can see where they would be 10-20hp less on a build like that.

The TF240 is arguably the “best” head you could put on your engine.
 
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Been looking for videos on measuring to find the correct pushrod length and stumbled on this guys videos. Watched his review of the stealth, RPM and trickflow head..all he says in every video is that he feels sorry for us mopar guys because none of these heads flow what something as big as a 440 needs..If he knows what he is talking about, i wont bother with anything besides the trickflow... but he seems like a possibly biased chevy guy..lol..i dont know, here is his trick flow video

Yep
Definitely Chevy guy !

“You poor old Mopar guys,,,,you’ve been kicking our butts for 60 years now “.

Yes,,,that’s not a race head,,,but it will still do pretty well against a Chevrolet .
He had to bring up an LS head to have any chance of being credible .

Don’t get me wrong,,,,Chevy and Ford are both excellent engines.
But don’t talk down to us like we are some kind of inbred losers !

Tommy
 
Yep
Definitely Chevy guy !

“You poor old Mopar guys,,,,you’ve been kicking our butts for 60 years now “.

Yes,,,that’s not a race head,,,but it will still do pretty well against a Chevrolet .
He had to bring up an LS head to have any chance of being credible .

Don’t get me wrong,,,,Chevy and Ford are both excellent engines.
But don’t talk down to us like we are some kind of inbred losers !

Tommy
Ya, thats what kinda bothered me too. Heck, what got me into mopars in the first place was going to the dirt track with a friend of mine. His cousins both raced mopars and literally stomped a field of chevys almost every saturday night! i ended up joining the crew and absolutely loved it! there was so much controversy over our cars..lol..we were protested over and over again because they thought they were going to find something wrong and never did. We made almost as much protest money as we did winning money. We ran a 1971 challenger 440/4 speed, 488 gear, stayed in 2nd all the way around the track turning 6500-6800 constantly. The rules for our home track stated that big blocks had to weigh 300 more pounds than small blocks, so that was a disadvantage but didnt seem to hurt us. 516 heads, holley 4bbl, headers, cant remember the cam but it wasnt too big as there was a limit. His brother ran a 1970 cuda with 400/ 4 speed for a while and we finished 1st and 2nd most nights. We had another 440 for the other track we went to that had the 'outlaw stock' class that had much less rules. We ran a 440/ same 4-speed, 2295 pistons, 292/509 cam, 456 gear as that track had longer straights. THAT engine was bad to the bone and sounded so mean! There was a guy that ran that other track and he was the guy to beat there. He had a 1972 or so monte carlo with a very fast 400 small block and we were able to get him also without much trouble..None of the chevy guys at any of the tracks liked to see us coming through the gates, i will tell ya that! Here is some old crappy footage of us i posted on youtube..The beat up #41 is the cuda we ran for a short time and the nice looking #41 is the challenger. The later videos get better if you watch it all.
 
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