1968 Hemi Barracuda info

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was the right inner fender hammer in from the factory.
from what i have read. the racers hammered them in for clearance, from the racers putting bigger cams, rockers and valve covers. The chrome ones no longer fit unless you dent the valve covers out from the inside

the picture you posted is a restoration, not a factory picture before a racer owned it. i could be wrong, but need to see to believe it.
 
here is some info on the 68 s/s barracudas and darts.i was only able to copy and paste it.

the introduction of the S/S Hemi Barracudas created controversy in the stock ranks, where the little guy now found himself pitted against nation record holders in factory-built race cars. On February 20, 1968, Chrysler-Plymouth general sales manager R.D. McLaughlin outlined for dealers- and racers -what they could order. The following is a reprint of his letter in its entirety.



CHRYSLER ANNOUNCEMENT LETTER


1968 SUPER STOCK BARRACUDA


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February 20, 1968
TO: All Plymouth Dealers

Subject: 1968 Hemi Barracuda Super Stock



The Chrysler-Plymouth Division offers for the 1968 models a 426 Hemi-Powered Barracuda Fastback for use in supervised acceleration trials. These cars will weigh approximately 3,000 pounds and have been designed to meet the 1968 specifications of the major sanctioning drag strip organizations.


The Hemi-Powered Barracudas will be available though production is limited quantities in March. To order this vehicle, use the Barracuda Order Form and specify Body Code BO29 and Transmission Code, either 4 Speed Manual, Code 393, or Automatic, Code 395. No other specifications are necessary.


Description of Components

426 cu. In. 8-cylinder engine with dual 4-barrel carburetors- 12.5 to 1 compression ratio.

Cross Ram Intake manifold.

1 11/16" x 1 11/16" Holley carburetors.

Competition Hooker headers, exhaust pipes, and mufflers.

High capacity oil pump.

Roller timing chain (reduced timing chain stretch for more consistent engine performance).

Mechanical valve gear.

Dual breaker distributor.

Transistor ignition.

Metal core type ignition wires.

Unsilenced air cleaners.

Deep groove fan drive pulleys.

Heavy duty radiator.

Aluminum seven-blade fan equipped with Viscous drive.

Special offset 15" rear wheels.

Chrysler-built 8 ¾" large stem pinion gear set, and heavy-duty axle
shafts with automatic transmission (4.86 axle ration).

Dana-built 9 ¾" heavy-duty axle with manual transmission (4.88 axle ration).

Sure-Grip differential.

135 Amp. Hr. battery (located in rear compartment).

Heavy-duty high control rear suspension.

Front disc brakes 41/2" Bolt Circle.

Fiberglass front fenders.

Fiberglass hood with scoop.

Light weight steel doors.

Light weight front bumper.

Light weight side window glass.

High capacity fuel lines.

Business coupe interior (2 bucket seats - no rear seat).


For Manual Transmission Only


Special heavy-duty 10 ½" clutch and flywheel.

Safety steel clutch housing.

Competition "Slick Shift" 4-speed transmission.

Hurst remote mounted floor-shift unit with reverse lockout.


For Automatic Transmission Only

High stall speed torque converter (large drive lugs and 7/16" diameter attaching screws).

Heavy-duty manual shift TorqueFlite transmission.

Hurst floor-mounted shift unit.


Please Note:


The following items are deleted on this body type:

Heater, Body Sealer and Sound Deadeners, Silence Pads, Outside Mirrors, Right Side Seat Belt and Body Color Paint.

NO OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT OF ANY KIND CAN BE ORDERED

The policy of Chrysler Corporation is one of continual improvement in design and manufacture, wherever possible, to insure a still finer car. Hence, specifications, equipment and prices are subject to change without notice.

These vehicles are intended to use in supervised acceleration trials and other competitive events, therefore, they will be sold without warrant. Special stickers will be provided for plant installation (attached to left "A" post) which will read as follows: "This vehicle was not manufactured for use on public streets, roads or highways and does not conform to Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.


All customer orders must be accompanied by a signed disclaimer (sample attached) indicating that the purchaser understands that this vehicle is sold without warranty and does not conform to Federal Vehicle Safety Standards.


Any prospective customer who desires to purchase one of these maximum performance vehicles should be made aware of the following characteristics which make them unsuitable for general use.


A high idle speed is required to insure adequate lubrication, minimize roughness, and to keep the
engine from stalling.

The modified intake manifold causes a rich surging condition, misfiring and unstable engine
operation in cold weather, which makes ordinary street driving extremely difficult and it is not
recommended for this use.

Higher than normal oil consumption will be encountered because of increased lubrication to the
valve train and cylinder walls.

The carburetors are calibrated for maximum power and a high numerical axle ration is used for
acceleration. As a result, the gas mileage is considerably less than for a conventional car.

Engine noise would be objectionable due to increased piston clearance and mechanical valve
tappet clearance.

The ignition system is designed for optimum engine output and must be kept in top condition. This
makes it necessary to inspect, adjust and replace the spark plugs and ignition points more
frequently than would be necessary on a standard engine.

On car equipped with automatic transmission, band adjustment must be made frequently.

Due to performance characteristics, maintenance and operating expense will be high since premium
fuel is required and frequent oil changes are a MUST.

Does not conform to Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.


Warranty and Policy Coverage


Any customer purchasing this model vehicle should be advised that due to the expected use, the vehicle is sold "as is" and the 24 month or 24,000 mile vehicle warranty coverage, the 5 year or 50,000 mile Power Train Warranty coverage, or any other warranty coverage (including, but not limited to the implied warranties of fitness for purpose intended or merchantability) will not apply to the vehicle. The manufacturer assumes no responsibility for the manner in which such vehicles operate.


Any repairs or adjustments which you believe warranty factory participation should be brought to the attention of your Regional Service Office where such requests will be handled on individual merits.


Attached is a form letter (to be prepared on your letterhead) which should be thoroughly understood and signed by each prospective purchaser and attached to your order for each Hemi Barracuda Super Stock. The purpose of the letter is to explain the normal operation characteristics of these vehicles and clarify that the warranty coverage’s do not apply. Be sure a letter in this form, signed by your customer, is included with your order so there will be no delay.

1968 Hemi Barracuda


It was inevitable that Chrysler would build the Hemi Barracuda. For the past four years, drag racers had been gutting Barracudas and dropping in 392 and 426 Elephant Engines. Since Chrysler had enjoyed tremendous success on the dragstrips in Super Stock and Unlimited Fuel since 1963, the decision to continue that domination by building a factory super stocker (with some assistance from Hurst) was a natural.

The S/S Hemi Barracuda was assembled by Chrysler as a package and then shipped to Hurst. Although the number varies from source to source, at least fifty and possibly as many as seventy-five Barracudas were shipped to Hurst’s facility in Detroit. The conversions were coordinated by Dick Maxwell at Chrysler and Richard Chrysler at Hurst. As delivered to the dealers, the cars had fiberglass hoods and fenders, while the front bumper and doors were light-gauge steel. The interiors were gutted and Bostrom driver seats installed.

To squeeze the mighty Elephant into the Barracuda’s tight engine bay, some modifications had to be made under the hood. The battery was moved to the trunk, and the right shock tower was moved, as was the master cylinder. Hurst also installed custom headers, shift linkages for four-speed cars and special rear-axle assemblies. Off the transport trailer the cars were delivered on street tires. All that was needed to make the car competitive was slicks, a deeper oil pan (a small pan was installed for shipping), camshaft and valvetrain.

The S/S Hemi Barracudas were delivered to racers in early May, in time to qualify for the NHRA Spring Nationals. Ronnie Sox was one of the first to get a Hemi Barracuda on the strip and turned mid 10s right out of the box
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From what Ive read is that Hurst smashed the inner fender at the factory.
 
OK,

Here is the 'skinny'. This 68' Barracuda shell was Dave Wren's 68' SS/BA car. Dave
sold it to Sox & Martin at the end of 1969 who then pulled the engine and transmission.

It was then sold to a gentleman from Northern New Jersey in early-1970 less the
engine and transmission, and he stored the car in a garage (wood-framed) where it sat for years.

Here it is showing the 'hammered in' passenger side inner fenderwell, which was
performed by the technicians at Hurst Performance in the Michigan facility.

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A) This is what the car looked like in July 1968.
B) It was repainted 'Orange' in 1969.
C) Sox and Martin bought it from Dave Wren at the end of the 1969 Racing season.
D) They pulled the Race Hemi and Automatic Transmission
E) They sold it to the Northern New Jersey gentleman, who had planned to put in his own engine and transmission.
F) It never happened, and it was put in a roofed garage and strored for 30+ years.
G) The roof collapsed, and the car sat for a few more years, until it was found.

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OK, ya got me. still like to see a factory picture before any races receive the cars.
 
OK,

Here is the 'skinny'. This 68' Barracuda shell was Dave Wren's 68' SS/BA car. Dave
sold it to Sox & Martin at the end of 1969 who then pulled the engine and transmission.

It was then sold to a gentleman from Northern New Jersey in early-1970 less the
engine and transmission, and he stored the car in a garage (wood-framed) where it sat for years.

Here it is showing the 'hammered in' passenger side inner fenderwell, which was
performed by the technicians at Hurst Performance in the Michigan facility.

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did this car get saved?
 
OK, ya got me. still like to see a factory picture before any races receive the cars.

Dave,

Overhead photo of the Test-Mule Barracuda in the early stages of assembly (December 1967)

As you can see on the left side of this photo (passenger side inner fender-well), the frame area
below the shock tower was modified with a fabricated curve, to accept the 426 Hemi engine.

If you look closely, you can see that the passenger side shock-absorber was removed at the time of this photo.

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You can't just beat the inner apron in. There is an upper brace for the shock that must be modified. To do it right takes about a day. I hope these pics help.
 

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The guy that did some of the body work on my car worked in the Hurst plant when the Darts/Cudas were built, he told me they just hammered the s&*t out of the inner fenders. I do not have any proof (pictures) just his word on it. I have the book about these cars somewhere.....
 
You can't just beat the inner apron in. There is an upper brace for the shock that must be modified. To do it right takes about a day. I hope these pics help.

Now, you have aftermarket cast valve covers.

The original stamped steel valve covers don't need as much room. But yes, you really need to beat/move out the inner shock brace.

Troy didn't move the shock brace back much at all on his Hemi Dart clone and it is very tight. But it does work. I've seen him adjust the valves a couple times myself.
 

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Now, you have aftermarket cast valve covers.

The original stamped steel valve covers don't need as much room. But yes, you really need to beat/move out the inner shock brace.

Troy didn't move the shock brace back much at all on his Hemi Dart clone and it is very tight. But it does work. I've seen him adjust the valves a couple times myself.


Wow!!

Aside from being crude workmanship I'd like to see your friend remove the RH sheet metal valve cover and adjust the valve lash, and do it in a reasonable amount of time, and with the engine hot. That's tight!!!

If I was building a true SS clone I would probably consider "beating" the inner apron into submission but it would be a difficult decision on my part.

To each his own.
 
Wow!!

Aside from being crude workmanship I'd like to see your friend remove the RH sheet metal valve cover and adjust the valve lash, and do it in a reasonable amount of time, and with the engine hot. That's tight!!!

If I was building a true SS clone I would probably consider "beating" the inner apron into submission but it would be a difficult decision on my part.

To each his own.

Here's a pic of him finishing adjusting the valves. It is close. He has to unbolt the shock and lower it a little to make sure the valve cover doesnt scratch.

Troy's car is a recreation of how a Hemi Super Stock car was delivered from the Hurst. The cars weren't that pretty. He was not trying to build a street rod Dart or Barracuda that has a Hemi.

Hemi motor with headers took about 10 minutes to put in. About 1/2 hour more to bolt the suspension up. Just drop body on drivetrain. No valve covers though. You need that clearance.
 

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Here's a pic of him finishing adjusting the valves. It is close. He has to unbolt the shock and lower it a little to make sure the valve cover doesnt scratch.

Troy's car is a recreation of how a Hemi Super Stock car was delivered from the Hurst. The cars weren't that pretty. He was not trying to build a street rod Dart or Barracuda that has a Hemi.

Hemi motor with headers took about 10 minutes to put in. About 1/2 hour more to bolt the suspension up. Just drop body on drivetrain. No valve covers though. You need that clearance.


AutoXcuda,

Thank you for the explanation (although not practical for racing purposes) I understand your friends intent. However the '68 Darts and Cudas were further modified from Hurst to allow sufficient clearance to adjust valve lash on a hot engine. A lot of the racers took the inner apron modification a little further if it suited their needs.

sscuda
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This is what's facinates me here on FABO. People from all over the world have some input and after a while the mystery or what ever it is get solved. Thanks FABO!
 
To avoid hammering the inner fender you can replace the front end with one form HEMIDENNY and just move the motor over a bit.....
 
OK, ya got me. still like to see a factory picture before any races receive the cars.
Why are you so insistent on seeing crumpled up sheet metal? Aint like any 2 cars are going to look the same seeing as how they were done with a sledge. Like I said earlier, Joe Savino, the guy that originally sprayed my car worked at the Hurst plant when they were built. He also did the restoration on the "Mule Car", the prototype Cuda so to speak. He told me they were hammered, that is good enough for me. There is a book Authenticity Guide 1968 Dart & Barracuda Hemi Super Stock that details what was done to build them. It was written by Jim Schild with Larry Griffith. The cars were before my time but from what little I have read on the history of them Larry raced them, so I do not think you will find a better source of info. The book is only 20 bucks or so......
 
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