1969 Barracuda Fastback

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  1. Machmeter1

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    For now, milestone transmission can be checked:). I used the shop manual and the technical book https://www.amazon.com/dp/1613253354/?tag=joeychgo-20, those pieces of literature covered almost every subject on the 904. The only thing I noticed, the author was often focused on 70 up 904s. Therefore I always double-checked with the 69 shop manual and year specific parts measurements, offered by transmission parts suppliers.
    I am quite happy with the endplay and curious about how it will work.

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      Nice and clean. The last one I did was my Power Wagon W100 SB 727. Did it on the tailgate of the truck. Not ideal but no issues!
       
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        Wolfgang,

        Sorry I have been absent for awhile - somehow FABO site stopped notifying me of changes.

        You are doing EXCELLENT work on this car - very impressive! I especially like the ingenuity of making the wooden form to work on the grille. Well done!

        Stay safe and keep up the good work! Progress on my 70 Road Runner has been slow and my painting still sucks. Maybe I'll have you over for a cold beer and get some painting tips from you!!! :lol:

        (OK, OK, I know it's a 7 hour drive...........)

        Cheers,

        Hawk
         
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        Hey Hawk, thanks for the flowers. We definitely need to meet again, and I don't mind driving 8 hours for cool beer!
        But at the moment you are ahead of me with your project. Guess I need to shovel some coal in the oven.

        Stay safe,
        Cheers Wolfgang
         
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          A little update on the engine. Due to the Corona Virus, I limit the contact to other people to a minimum, but I was able to see the final Dyno test with the original carburetor, exhaust manifolds, and air cleaner assembly. My concerns, that the BBD carburetor my not work properly were groundless. With the factory settings, no adjustments were necessary on the carb. The engine is not a performance engine, and I never wanted performance. My focus laid on durability and originality. Here are some impressions and data from the dyno. I am very happy with the work of Kammer Racing, Bob Kammer and his team are great people and it was absolutely a pleasure to work with them. I consider it an enrichment for me, being his customer and I will definitely continue to visit this unique Racing shop.

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          • Machmeter1

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            After the Dyno test, it was time for my big performance...spray paint :)

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              Nice job Wolfgang. FYI the factory used to paint the bypass hose too.
               
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              Finally, everything is in the place where it belongs. After being raced and pushed hard for the last 20 years, my Barracuda deserves his retirement and a new heart.

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              • Machmeter1

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                Thank you for the info Dave, the engine paint needs still some touch-up, but I think I keep the hose black - looks better.
                 
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                Happy Easter,
                I would like to share my mistakes, my experiences and MY OPINION regarding the brake system. I replaced the whole brake/fuel system and spent around $2200 on it. My first mistake was not bleeding the system before the engine was in - its very hard to access the proportioning valve with the engine in. The second mistake was (thought it saves me time), to buy pre-bent steel lines. From my experience on a previous project, I knew that stainless steel lines are hard to bend and even harder to get sealed. Therefore, this time I decided to go with steel lines.

                My experience: The pre-bent lines didn't fit 100%, but I never expected a perfect fit and knew they will need some adjustments. The problem is, if a pre-bent brake line has a small radius bend, you can't bend it back - it would weaken the material. Big radius bends are not that big of a problem - you can make the radius tighter or wider. The same goes for the fuel line.

                For example the fuel/brake lines through the cross member holes: Even though I applied grease on the lines and tried to widen the radius on some tight bends, it was almost impossible to get those lines through the holes. My car doesn't have new paint but still, I don't want to make more scratches in it. The same problems occurred on the brake lines going under the front frame rail to the brake hoses - tight radius - if not 100% correct pre-bent, hard to correct.

                Anyway, I took my hours to install the brake lines with proper bends and without having tension on them. Bench bled the master cylinder and filled the system - BOOM - its leaking on several corners.

                I am not a professional car mechanic and don't have a built-in torque wrench in my arm, but after 25 years working on cars and with different metals, I kinda developed a sense for torque specifications. The well-known trick of loosening and retighten worked neither, so I had to tighten most fittings really hard - too hard for my taste.

                Common sense and my experience should have told me that steel and brass are not a good combination - brass is soft and steel is hard.
                Even the proportioning valve itself had a leak and I really had to tighten the inline part really really hard to get it sealed.

                A few years ago I worked on my Suzuki Samurai Offroad car, I redid the whole brake system with nickel/copper lines, what a pleasure to work with. They are soft, last long, easy to bend and seal right away.

                My resume - an investment in a QUALITY double flaring tool (no China crap) and certified nickel/copper lines saves money, nerves, and guarantees a professional result. As I mentioned above this is MY OPINION, and I am sure if I ever remove those brake lines, the seats in the brass parts will have deep marks form that way too hard steel lines. So if someone has new paint on his car, I highly recommend thinking twice what kind of brake lines to use.

                Here an example: The line to the master cylinder - way off(cross marks the point where the nipple should be), plus I had to file off some material from the nipple because it bottomed before the flare even touched the bottom of the proportioning valve.

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                  I love original parts - they usually fit perfectly, don't molest the car and NO modifications needed. After the set back with the brake lines, it was a pleasure to install the original shifter linkage.

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                    Next chapter, the exhaust: On FABO/FBBO are several posts about Waldron's Exhaust, car exhaust, truck exhaust, exhaust pipes, mufflers, I read them all and found good and not so good experiences with their products. One user mentioned an unexpected long delivery delay but their prices seem to be fair.
                    I decided to give them a call and insisted, if I order, to get a delivery deadline. The customer service representative was very friendly and told me that some of their exhaust parts (mufflers) are not made inhouse and they need to order them, which can cause a delay.
                    Since they had one NORS muffler for a single exhaust with stock specifications in stock, I proceeded with my order and delivery was on time.

                    Today I test fitted the exhaust pipe and noticed that the exhaust pipe to manifold connection was 0.5" inch off on one side. With some muscle power, I was able to correct this misalignment and be good for now. I am curious how the rest of the system will fit and gonna share my experiences here on FABO.

                    Stay safe,
                    Wolfgang

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                      Well, I can say that the angle of the intermediate pipe and the exhaust pipe does not match. Since I am not accepting any tension on the exhaust system, which may cause cracks in the exhaust manifolds, I removed the exhaust pipe and will bring it to a muffler shop. Muffler, intermediate and tailpipe look ok.

                      Quite disappointed about the waste of time and money. I sent an Email to Waldron Exhaust's, will see with what solution they come up. For sure I don't want a replacement-will fix whatever I got.

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                      • missing linc

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                        That's brutal, a blind man could tell they don't belong together.
                         
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                        • Machmeter1

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                          Not much to update..., had another setback. The power steering pressure hose which I ordered a long time ago does not fit. The male fitting to the pump is 5/8 - 18 and would match, but the female fitting to the power steering box is way too big. The male fitting on my steering box is 1/2 - 20. I grew up with the metric system and therefore I am not really good with the imperial system, but such incompetency as I experienced today at the local auto parts stores is unbelievable. Wasted 4 hours just dealing with people, who are either not motivated or missed their math/imperial classes in school. It is really frustrating to find good quality, bolt-on parts, but almost impossible to avoid all that junk. Will gladly pay more and just get the pressure hose custom made. So at least one craftsman here in the US will earn a few bucks and not one of those car part clowns and their Chinese business partners.
                          Well, enough complaining, in order to get in a better mood I grabbed some original parts and put them where they belong. Cant mention it often enough, it is a pleasure to work with clean original Chrysler parts and a service manual on the workbench. Secured the kick-down lever on the transmission in forwarding position and locked the linkage with a drill bit. A few turns on the linkage and the setting was done. The only thing I might change is the rear spring - pulls quite hard compared to the throttle lever return spring. Here some pictures:

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                            Thanks to FABO member RealWing, who was so kind and gave me the link to the product "plasti tip", I could finally finish the restoration of the passenger valve cover. The writing on the valve cover is not modern scribbling - its the signature of the engine builder. I can't afford an MB AMG, Bentley or Shelby, but I like this tradition and so I asked him to sign his work. The alternator needed also some attention and is ready to go in the car.

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                              Today the radiator got some attention. It's an original recored Chrysler 22" radiator. I ordered Gates radiator hoses (quality looks good), which fit perfectly on the water pump, thermostat housing, and upper radiator inlet. Only on the lower radiator outlet, I ran into a small problem. The hose had the same diameter as the outlet and a lot of force would have been required to get the hose on. Since brass is very soft and I didn't want to damage the radiator I came up with the following solution:
                              Installed the radiator hose spring, marked the correct angle of the hose to the water pump, deburred the edge on the outlet so it had no sharp edge anymore, then lubed outlet and hose with vaseline, used a heat gun and applied some heat to the hose, which made it softer - it easily slid on the outlet - problem solved.

                              I also noticed that the radiator rested with the bottom directly on the radiator support. I didn't like that, so I glued (weatherstrip adhesive) some rubber stripes on the bottom of the radiator. For the mounting points, I cut 4 cork washers. The went between the back of the radiator support and the radiator. Now the radiator does not directly touch any metal of the radiator support and is a bit damped.

                              Finally, I made a little filter for the upper radiator hose. A very knowledgeable mechanic said once to me, never run a new/rebuild radiator on an engine when you are not absolutely that there are no loose objects in the engine's water system. Even though my block got hot tanked and cleaned, I don't wanna run the risk and mess up that nice radiator. Can not rule out that something still might come off the block walls.

                              You radiator filters from vendors and spent 50$ and have to cut your radiator hose, or spend a few cents and invest some time:
                              - cut a stranded wire, bend it to a ring with 36 mm diameter
                              - solder the ends together
                              - slide a metal net (found on strainers) over a broomstick - like a condom :)
                              - slide the ring over the net and broomstick
                              - cut off the excess net
                              - with a very thin wire sew the net to the ring
                              - insert the ring into the radiator inlet - et viola - no ugly cut and filter on the hose

                              Since copper is a noble metal and attacks other metals it's for sure not the best material but easy to work with. I did the same on my Mustang and periodically checked and cleaned the filter. Once there are no more dirt or rust flakes coming out of the engine, I will remove the filter, so it won't stay there for too long.

                              A nicely crafted stainless steel or brass filter would probably look better, but it's just temporary and serves its purpose.

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                                Great idea on the strainer WG.
                                 
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                                  I suggest running a ground strap to the radiator. Engine coolant has a side effect of acting as an electrolyte. That fact contributes to the pitting you see in the aluminum thermostat housing on lots of engines. Isolating the radiator from ground, especially since there is a dramatic temperature change happening inside can cause a higher voltage build-up in the coolant. At worst, it won't hurt.
                                   
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                                    I agree - do not isolate the rad from the frame.
                                     
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                                    Wolfgang, I had also replaced the stock negative battery cable, which originally only ran to the engine block, with one that grounded to the rad support as well. By the way, when I had the alternator rebuilt a number of years ago, it was upgraded to higher capacity internals, 65 or 70 amp if I recall.
                                     
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                                    Mpgmike, RealWing, and Qkcuda thank you for the input, I really appreciate it. It is very helpful having other members to doublecheck on my work.
                                    In the past, I read an article about corrosion due to a lack of ground to the water system. The radiator should still have ground through the radiator mounting bolts - that is why the cork gasket is just on one side, also the transmission cooler lines should provide some ground to the radiator, but as stated above "At worst it won't hurt", I will follow your advice and opinion and run a separate ground wire to the radiator.

                                    Qkcuda, thank you for making me aware of that modification. I hope the alternator does not melt the electric system again. I checked the whole engine harness and had to replace some wires. The alternator cable on the bulkhead connector was badly melted. Regarding this problem, I opened a few weeks ago a separate thread in the tech section.

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                                      Wolfgang,

                                      The power capability of the alternator will do nothing to harm your electrical system. The alternator will only provide the number of amps requested by your car, even if it has the capacity to provide 70. Your car, in stock form, should do nothing to draw more than Chrysler engineered it for. The only way it would harm your system is if you have non-stock electrical components that draw more power, like high power radios, electric fuel pumps, etc. If that is the case, you will need to upgrade your wiring system to take the extra power.

                                      A good rule of thumb, by the way, is that the bulkhead connectors are the weak point in the Chrysler electrical systems; those spade connectors can handle about 35 amps before you get into trouble.

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                                        all true except in the case where you have a badly discharged battery. Then the current delivered to accessories and the battery may exceed the approx 35 amps limitation on the bulkhead connectors. The best solution is to bypass the bulkhead connector altogether and convert the ammeter to a voltmeter. No more problems!!
                                         
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                                        Thanks Hawk for the explanation and looking forward to see your Roadrunner back on the street soon.
                                        RealWing, have not converted to a voltmeter yet, but when I replaced the alternator wire, I elegantly bypassed the bulkhead connector having the wire still running through the same hole.

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