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1971 Match Race ~ 'Duster 340' vs. 'Boss 351 Mustang'
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1972DusterPaul
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My buddy's stock Boss 351 had no problem walking away from my Duster with it's mildly hot rodded 340 any time any place the last couple years.
Both of us fell short to my dad and his fuel-injected 327 Corvette.
I upped the ante this summer with a rebuild and a bunch more horsepower so hopefully I can take him next summer.
Paul
Both of us fell short to my dad and his fuel-injected 327 Corvette.
I upped the ante this summer with a rebuild and a bunch more horsepower so hopefully I can take him next summer.
Paul
Nice Grouping...............:cheers:
I did get a ride in one of those iconic yellow boss 351 cars.
At the time it was the quickest car I had ever ridden in.
The boss package must have been a hell of an improvement over a "regular" 351C 4V.
I owned an EXTREMELY unmolested 71 torino GT 351C 4V ram air car, and honestly, it really wasn't all that in the performance department.
Not even close to my 70 383 Bee, which I owned at the same time.
...and other than the mega factory sponsored guys, I've never really seen any mustang do well at the track, until the fox body craze.
At the time it was the quickest car I had ever ridden in.
The boss package must have been a hell of an improvement over a "regular" 351C 4V.
I owned an EXTREMELY unmolested 71 torino GT 351C 4V ram air car, and honestly, it really wasn't all that in the performance department.
Not even close to my 70 383 Bee, which I owned at the same time.
...and other than the mega factory sponsored guys, I've never really seen any mustang do well at the track, until the fox body craze.
We had '2' 1971 Boss 351 Mustangs in our area back in the day.
A Silver 'Boss 351' and a Grabber Blue 'Boss 351'.
Both were street cars, and 'not' Track Cars. They were fairly quick.
Biggest problem was 'off-the-line' wheel spin and hop.
Not cheaply priced at $4200 for 1971.
A Silver 'Boss 351' and a Grabber Blue 'Boss 351'.
Both were street cars, and 'not' Track Cars. They were fairly quick.
Biggest problem was 'off-the-line' wheel spin and hop.
Not cheaply priced at $4200 for 1971.
mikedevore
Well-Known Member
Any production numbers to gage popularity with?
Seems to me, if this was such a killer package, that they would have sold in great numbers.
i'm not saying that the boss351 doesn't have potential, it seemed to me that ford had good racing products, but didn't translate to fast street cars.
Seems to me, if this was such a killer package, that they would have sold in great numbers.
i'm not saying that the boss351 doesn't have potential, it seemed to me that ford had good racing products, but didn't translate to fast street cars.
Mike,
1971 'Boss 351' {4-Speed Only}
Available with either > Close-Ratio or Wide-Ratio Transmission.
Production Numbers.......... 1806
It was not highly marketed in November 1970 when it was first introduced,
as the Base Price of $4200 was a bit steep at the time.
With 'options', the Price $5200
1971 'Boss 351' {4-Speed Only}
Available with either > Close-Ratio or Wide-Ratio Transmission.
Production Numbers.......... 1806
It was not highly marketed in November 1970 when it was first introduced,
as the Base Price of $4200 was a bit steep at the time.
With 'options', the Price $5200
rbdart
Well-Known Member
I'm not a ford fan whatsoever,but in comparison,the 351 seems to me kinda like the dodge 361 with the stroke and such and give the 340 the same comp and solid cam as the 351 and there would be absolutely no contest at all..period...
I had one back in 73 and wasn't impressed. I sold it because it sounded like a old bed spring in action coming down the road. Even after several dealer visits. It just kept on squeaking.
Some times if the wind was blowing hard I could here it squeaking in the driveway while I was sitting in the house. I just couldn't take it anymore. I traded it for a 65 GTO even up.
Some times if the wind was blowing hard I could here it squeaking in the driveway while I was sitting in the house. I just couldn't take it anymore. I traded it for a 65 GTO even up.
Biggest problem with the 1971 'Boss 351'
Wheel Hop
They needed 'Traction Masters' and 50/50 Rear Shocks, even on the 'street'.
Wheel Hop
They needed 'Traction Masters' and 50/50 Rear Shocks, even on the 'street'.
Kar
Active Member
Ok Guys, I have always been on that fence between Mopars, and Fords, love them both. You must remember that all 351C are not created equal, the Boss 351 was a one year only production for the 71 Mach I. it was the only one with a solid lift cam. A standard 351C 4V or 2V in stock form would be no match for a stock form 340 of the same year.
As for the 71-73 Mach ones, I love to look at them, but after owning one, it is nothing but a rolling blind spot, and you mine as well open the door and turn around to back the thing up, and my boys could not even see over the dash.
I am now cruising a 65 Valiant Signet, with a 340, plus 295's up under the rear.
As for the 71-73 Mach ones, I love to look at them, but after owning one, it is nothing but a rolling blind spot, and you mine as well open the door and turn around to back the thing up, and my boys could not even see over the dash.
I am now cruising a 65 Valiant Signet, with a 340, plus 295's up under the rear.
1971 'Boss 351'
Exterior Color made a difference, as well as the 'Optional' Magnum 500 wheels.
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Exterior Color made a difference, as well as the 'Optional' Magnum 500 wheels.
G-Man,
1971 'Duster 340'
Production Numbers.. 12,886
Fact: The 'Duster 340' did not come with Hood Scoops
1971 'Duster 340'
Production Numbers.. 12,886
Fact: The 'Duster 340' did not come with Hood Scoops
ProStocker273
MoPar N Jeep
Seems like a 340 dart would be a better match. Aren't they litghter than a duster?
No, the last 340 Dart in the United States was in 1970 with the 'Swinger'.
They were a little heavier than the 1971 'Duster 340'.
Shipping Weight
* 1971 Duster 340 - 4-Speed...................... #3165 lbs.
* 1970 Dart 'Swinger 340' - 4-Speed............ #3179 lbs.
They were a little heavier than the 1971 'Duster 340'.
Shipping Weight
* 1971 Duster 340 - 4-Speed...................... #3165 lbs.
* 1970 Dart 'Swinger 340' - 4-Speed............ #3179 lbs.
EL5DEMON340
Well-Known Member
These boss 351 run around 55k now in nice restored original shape
1972DusterPaul
Well-Known Member
My buddy's talking about changing rides in the spring.
His is just a driver and can be had for much less than 55K, I don't know how much he wants.
I do know he likes 68/69 Barracudas especially big blocks.
Paul
His is just a driver and can be had for much less than 55K, I don't know how much he wants.
I do know he likes 68/69 Barracudas especially big blocks.
Paul
OldmanRick
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I'm late here, but thanks for this thread Paul "69 Cuda 440."
I've posted before that I think the Boss 351 was the most powerful small block to come out of the American factories in the muscle car era.
Don't get me wrong, I love the SBM, but I have to give credit where it's due. In as delivered configuration, my opinion is it was the best of the bunch.....including the 70' LT1, and I have driven both.
I've posted before that I think the Boss 351 was the most powerful small block to come out of the American factories in the muscle car era.
Don't get me wrong, I love the SBM, but I have to give credit where it's due. In as delivered configuration, my opinion is it was the best of the bunch.....including the 70' LT1, and I have driven both.
Rick,how interesting you made that statement.... A few years ago,Hot Rod magazine, actually took this to heart. The LT-1 ,didn't win.... Fwiw,a well built Cleveland/Boss 351 is just like a FE Medium/High Riser 427. A well built engine,with lots of work. Sorry 69 440.....
Weight Distribution
'Duster 340' Shipping Weight_#3165 lbs.___Curb Weight__#3310 lbs.
Front ...................53.5%..........#1693 lbs. ....................... #1770 lbs.
Rear.....................46.5%..........#1472 lbs. ....................... #1540 lbs.
'Boss 351' Shipping Weight #3281 lbs.___Curb Weight #3430 lbs.
Front ...................57.9% ..........#1900 lbs. ...................... #1986 lbs.
Rear ....................42.1% ..........#1381 lbs. ...................... #1444 lbs.
Get me some 'Traction-Masters'
The 'Duster 340' is better balanced.
'Duster 340' Shipping Weight_#3165 lbs.___Curb Weight__#3310 lbs.
Front ...................53.5%..........#1693 lbs. ....................... #1770 lbs.
Rear.....................46.5%..........#1472 lbs. ....................... #1540 lbs.
'Boss 351' Shipping Weight #3281 lbs.___Curb Weight #3430 lbs.
Front ...................57.9% ..........#1900 lbs. ...................... #1986 lbs.
Rear ....................42.1% ..........#1381 lbs. ...................... #1444 lbs.
Get me some 'Traction-Masters'
The 'Duster 340' is better balanced.
EL5DEMON340
Well-Known Member
Those carbs go for around $3,000 US dollars
rbdart
Well-Known Member
So were the darts after 70 made in canada,I had a 71 340 twin scoop auto red with blk vinyl top column shift 3.55 sg 8 3/4,rallye wheels,that had ps pb with 43k was one of the nicest cars I ever owned,was like new and I regret the day I sold it..bone stock and unmolested and I left it that way still ran low to mid 14's if I recall correctly..
EL5DEMON340
Well-Known Member
They were a mechanical secondary with a non adjustable secondary air door similar to a thermoquad only it was not as tunable and only flowed 715cfm. Why are they so expensive ?? Most guys tossed them in the trash only problem was the bolt pattern was unique on the carb so a holley wouldn't bolt up so off came the manifold.
1971 Dodge Dart Swinger 340 'Special'
Only available in Canada. Built at the Windsor, Ontario Plant.
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