Jeff Seighman
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look at post #71 first photo, isn't that a notch facing down like it should be?
360 clicikng valve train
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This is the proper location for notches, down and inward, right bank rear, left bank front.
I thought so at first, but I'm not convinced now.
It’s been awhile since I did a small block but do the oil holes sit straight down or into wards the valves or out to the rockers or am I *** backwards? Kim
It depends. There are several different kinds of shafts, but the stock ones install with the oil holes angled down and toward the valve sprAngs.
at about 15 degrees
I think that's about right.....but like I said, there are different shafts with oiling holes in a few different spots......but they all point toward the bottom of the rockers since that's where all the force is.
Well you can clearly see the oil problem on this side. The rocker shaft is on backwards as I suspected. You need to take all the rockers off the shaft and slide the shaft in from the other side. I don't see the notch on the end of the shaft facing front on the drivers side. You won't get oil when installed like this. It's assembled wrong.
How difficult is this to do? I understand how to take the rockers off. However I want to make sure if there is a certain procedure keeping rockers in the same orientation. And if a need a torque wrench grease cleaning etc. And how to put the shaft notch facing towards the front of the car. Do I need to start the car to see if oil is coming out of the valleys with the rockers off. Youtube.com
middleagecrisis
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Did you even read my post (#55)? I'm out!
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Take the rocker assembly off and lay it down on a flat surface. Pull the bolts out and then slide the shaft out. Then slide it back into the rockers in the opposite direction. Just make sure when you are done the notch should be face down and to your left on either side of the engine. You can put the rockers back on in any order because you will need to adjust the valves anyway.
This is done with a feeler gauge.
This is done with a feeler gauge.
RAMM
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Is there anyway this is a Magnum block? If not then cam bearings were installed incorrectly. J.Rob
Not difficult AT ALL. Here's the catch though. DON'T look in the manual for the bolt torque for the rocker shaft bolts. It's WRONG. They only torque to like 15-20 foot pounds and NO more. So keep that in mind.
Can we get a picture of the front of that shaft, too?
Probably not.
Front driver's side is in post #38. I'm donating a new set of shafts I bought from a member here years ago. I went a different route with my TF 190's and their required valve train set up, so these are spares. A quick question to the brain trust. Do the banana grooves face up, or down towards the head. I've read conflicting statements, but I've learned to trust the forum members here over the years. I want to make sure he installs these new shafts correctly. Paul.
He has verified it has 360 cast into the block, and the heads have 5 bolts on the valve covers, so he's pretty sure it an LA 360. Thank you for your help, sir.
TT5.9mag
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Magnums have 360 cast in to the block also.
That's true, and I should know better. Senior moment. RRR answered my question in post #80. It makes sense to have the holes and grooves down, since that's where most of the load on the rocker arms are subjected to. I didn't read all of RRR's post thoroughly. I've asked him for photos of the shaft ends on the passenger side too.
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I expect all this talk about rocker shaft orientation is premature. The shafts WILL allow oil out, upside down AND backwards. It wont be in the correct spots, but it WILL still oil in my experience. I'd be looking hard to make sure it isnt a magnum block as mentioned, then I'd be thinking cam bearings
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