390 cam suggestion

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The intake valves are 1.780 and would like flat tappet. Rpm around 1800 to 5000
Then you certainly need to watch camshaft size. You will easily over cam that engine. In fact, I'd say the factory 340 cam would be to big. Those heads are going to be a real cork with 318 size intake valves. You now are displacing 390 cubes. That was a Ford big block. Get it? You need more cylinder head.
 
I disagree, with a good porting job those heads with 1.78 intake valves should flow in the 200 cfm range.
Is the OP capable of a good port job, does he have a flow bench ? Why does everyone assume that everyone can port a set of heads and get great results.

Maybe he can or he can’t but unless the guy has a proven track record porting, I assume he be better off with better heads, unless the OP is down to experiment but even then start with 340\360 heads get more return on investment.
 
I disagree, with a good porting job those heads with 1.78 intake valves should flow in the 200 cfm range. Your choke point is going to be your intake manifold. I agree you don't want to shroud the valves with a larger combustion chamber and let the static compression ratio be what it's going to be. You can bleed off some with your cam choice to lower the static ratio.
Two things. 200CFM will piss 390 cubes off. Secondly, camshafts don't "bleed off" cylinder pressure. That's not how it works. A camshaft with a later intake valve closing event simply closes later than a "smaller" counterpart, so it does not fill the cylinder as completely. SO the pressure is not there to begin with. You cannot "bleed off" what isn't there. Our good good friend Jim Laroy corrected me on that years ago and he's dead right.
 


Basic RPM Range:
 1500 to 5000
Valve Lift Intake:
 .450
Valve Lift Exhaust:
 .465
Duration Intake:
 267
Duration Exhaust:
 277
Duration at 050 Intake:
 213
Duration at 050 Exhaust:
 223
Lobe Separation:
 112
for an off the shelf cam, that's what's up.

howards delivers, i've run their stuff and been pleased.
 
for an off the shelf cam, that's what's up.

howards delivers, i've run their stuff and been pleased.
I run one also.. but haven't run many others so not fair for me to say it's better:) but dealing with them was nice...
 
I had small valve 360 heads on a 318 for years (1.88' intake valve). Stock compression, probably around 7.5 to 1. Those heads worked really good above 3500 rpm but it was a bit of a dog down low, mostly because of the compression ratio. With your pistons and that extra cubic inch you should most definitely find some old iron 360 heads.

I won't pretend to know enough about cams to recommend one, especially for an oddball combination like yours (oddball meaning big stroker cubic inch, good compression, and tiny heads).
 
Will, also.. if you have your original cam you might want to talk to Oregon or Daniel Powell.. it's usually less money to regrind your cam and if you explain your setup they will give you exactly what you need.. the guys here work on X amount of cams in their lifetime... actual cam guys are the experts :)
 
Please remember I'm not looking for max hp or tq. I just want something to rattle around town maybe a couple of trips down the strip.heads are going to be in the future but with the 0 deck I need some combustion chamber.
 
Please remember I'm not looking for max hp or tq. I just want something to rattle around town maybe a couple of trips down the strip.heads are going to be in the future but with the 0 deck I need some combustion chamber.

For sure, that's why I suggested small valve 360 iron heads and not ported Trick Flows. You can probably get a totally serviceable used set for $100 - $200 that you could just bolt right on. The combustion chamber on those heads is cavernous (hence my super low compression ratio) so you won't have any issues there.

Like others have said, the 318 heads were designed for 273 cubic inches. Putting them on a 390 is a little crazy. That's more than 1.9 liters of extra displacement... like adding a whole Honda in cubic inches :D

But I get it, there are budgets, time, and other considerations. And I suppose there will be a certain fun in running those 273 / 318 sized heads for a while then upgrading to something better.
 
Please remember I'm not looking for max hp or tq. I just want something to rattle around town maybe a couple of trips down the strip.heads are going to be in the future but with the 0 deck I need some combustion chamber.
Yeah we get that. We're trying to give you good advice. You need to listen. It's not a 318 anymore. 318 heads are not going to be conducive to making decent street power.
 
Please remember I'm not looking for max hp or tq. I just want something to rattle around town maybe a couple of trips down the strip.heads are going to be in the future but with the 0 deck I need some combustion chamber.
To give you a better comparison. Chrysler introduced the slant 6 in 1959 at 170 cubic inches, quickly followed by the 225. That's 55 that's FIFTY FIVE more cubic inches, yet Chrysler used the 170 head design and port configuration all the way through to the end of the run for the slant 6 on ALL THREE engine sizes.....and guess what? The cylinder head is THE NUMBER ONE limiting factor for a performance slant 6 because of that. YOUR engine is 72 that's SEVENTY TWO cubic inches bigger than a 318. I don't care what these guys say......and I mean no disrespect, but there is no way the 318 heads will be adequate. It's not about making the most power. It's about something performing decently for the amount of time, trouble and money. You will be disappointed with 318 heads. But by all means, use them if you want. It's your project, it's your money time and trouble. Good luck if you do!
 
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Please remember I'm not looking for max hp or tq. I just want something to rattle around town maybe a couple of trips down the strip.
It's up to you, but were not talking max power either, 318 heads are barely adequate for a mild 318 (5,000 rpm) nevermind a 390, most would be lucky if they make more than high 200's hp (250-300 hp) with stock 318 heads. A 390 may squeeze a little more than a 318 will out of them but I wouldn't expect great 2500-5000+ rpm power number, power will be down across the board, torque takes airflow too.

Here's a 393 Ford with stock 302 heads vs a set of 205 AFR.

Look at the loss between 3,900-5,000 rpm, At 5,000 rpms there's about a 100 hp/tq loss.
The torque drops off rapidly after 3,800 rpms with stock 302 heads which are similar to 318 heads.

And the AFR's give up nothing down low, I'm not saying you got to go this crazy but shows what a good set of heads will do, an ok set would gain half as much but still would be a decent gain.

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Edelbrock 2.02/1.60 heads work really well on an 11.2:1 .030 318 with a four inch crank and a 274 XE comp cam. Even in a 5000 pound plus truck on 35's and 3.90 gears with an NV4500...
 
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Edelbrock 2.02/1.60 heads work really well on an 11.2:1 .030 318 with a four inch crank and a 274 XE comp cam. Even in a 5000 pound plus truck on 35's and 3.90 gears and an NV4500...


You get by with 93 in it? I kinda wanna build mine to use worse gas.. an extra $2 a gallon adds up over years... funny how gas was supposed to be cheaper now... :(
 
I definitely hear and understand you all that's why I'm here getting your advice. Now dose anyone have a decent set of heads? I can grind my own seats and valves if they need guides i have a guy that can do those. I don't have many mopar guys in my neck of the woods.
 
I definitely hear and understand you all that's why I'm here getting your advice. Now dose anyone have a decent set of heads? I can grind my own seats and valves if they need guides i have a guy that can do those. I don't have many mopar guys in my neck of the woods.

Facebook marketplace... keep a eye out and you can find a whole 360 for cheap.. use the heads and sell the rest. I have a pair i just pulled i have for sale that i would give you but the drive would be a killer :)
 
I definitely hear and understand you all that's why I'm here getting your advice. Now dose anyone have a decent set of heads? I can grind my own seats and valves if they need guides i have a guy that can do those. I don't have many mopar guys in my neck of the woods.
A set of speeemasters probably your best bet, or second hand Eddies.
 
A set of speeemasters probably your best bet, or second hand Eddies.

BUT... when you get into aftermarket heads you will run into more money issues.. like pushrods and stuff like that... everything leads to more money :)
 
I definitely hear and understand you all that's why I'm here getting your advice. Now dose anyone have a decent set of heads? I can grind my own seats and valves if they need guides i have a guy that can do those. I don't have many mopar guys in my neck of the woods.

Not sure where you are in CO, but this is in Denver:

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FB marketplace is better that CL these days, but I can't access it on my work computer :D
 
You get by with 93 in it? I kinda wanna build mine to use worse gas.. an extra $2 a gallon adds up over years... funny how gas was supposed to be cheaper now... :(
Barely. He wasn't running any vacuum advance and timing limited to 32 degrees total mechanical advance with a long curve for best results when towing. Really too much vehicle and not enough gearing. 4.56's would have been good, but 4.88s would have been better. There was a lot of room for improvement in the carburetion department as far as tuning went. I think it would have gotten by on 89 octane if the carb tuning hadn't been so idle and intermediate rich. I wasn't able to convince him to get into the fuel restrictors to straighten the tune out.
 
Where are you in Colorado and how soon do you need them? I've got a good set of 2.02" J-heads that came off my 340 and I'll be driving to Golden and Estes Park areas in August. I'll be in Western Nebraska in June and could bring them along.
 
Did you mention your altitude so people can factor that in the possible cam choice. Im on the KS/CO line and im at 4200 and most places in CO are 4k and higher above sea level.

Wilb, this guy has a bunch of stuff listed and one thing is a set of rebuilt 360 915 1.88 heads. Ads been up forever and he told me months ago $400 for the heads. I just didnt feel like going for the drive since the ad is unimpressive and imo a bit on the high side.

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