66 Dart 270

[arby911]

Posted elsewhere but no responses, so maybe here is better.

I’m doing a restoration for a very good friend after they took it elsewhere and it was taken apart and then basically sat for 6 years.

It’s going well but if anyone could provide some engine bay photos of the wiring harness routing and anchor points it would be much appreciated!

225 slant six, automatic, AC.

Thanks.

 

[Mattax]

Use the search function at the upper right and for terms try starting with 1966 and connector or 1966 and harness supports.

Another option is to buy the assembly drawings from Faxon.

Dart

www.faxonautoliterature.com

These are not the best reproductions (reduced and badly watermarked) but on the other hand they are the actual prints from 1966.
A couple of us have posted a few examples (often cleaned up on the computer) for 67-69.
You can search for those too. Just search for Faxon will turn up a few.

 

[arby911]

Use the search function at the upper right and for terms try starting with 1966 and connector or 1966 and harness supports.

Another option is to buy the assembly drawings from Faxon.

http://[URL]https://www.faxonautoliterature.com/1966-Dodge-Dart

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These are not the best reproductions (reduced and badly watermarked) but on the other hand they are the actual prints from 1966.
A couple of us have posted a few examples (often cleaned up on the computer) for 67-69.
You can search for those too. Just search for Faxon will turn up a few.

Thanks, appreciate the information.

 

[slantsixdan]

the assembly drawings from Faxon.
These are not the best reproductions (reduced and badly watermarked)

…and severely incomplete, per Kevin McCabe:

"About Chrysler "Assembly Manuals" from Faxon: that's a term used by other automakers, Chrysler called them Graphics Books. That's number one.

Second, in speaking of JUST car assembly, there are at least four graphics books. The chassis graphics book is 8½ × 11, all the others are 11 × 17.

Third, Chrysler grouped graphics books for THEIR convenience. If one particular assembly step could be covered in one sheet for multiple car lines, they'd do it.

At the 2008 WPC National Meet in Farmington PA, some clown (presumably Faxon) was the speaker after the dinner banquet. He extolled us on how he had, at "great" expense, bought "ALL of Chrysler's assembly manuals". I already had the ones I have an knew that if he had "ALL" of Chrysler's graphics books, he'd have needed a couple of 53-foot trailers. Anyway he claimed to have also purchased the right to reproduce these manuals and he was going to be a boon to the Chrysler restoration hobby, yadda-yadda-yadda. I asked him how big a pile of books he'd purchased. He held his arm out about midway between his waist and shoulder and said "About that high". So I pointed out to him that I was familiar with these books and if he'd purchased "ALL" of Chrysler's graphics books and that's all he got, he got robbed. He said me he had a guy working for him who knew about these books and knew how to catalog them, organize them, etc.

Having looked at what he's offering: it's book-salad. If (big if!) this "assembly manual" is the entire body graphics book, there are two problems that I see: 1. the originals were 11 × 17. This book is 8½ × 11, which means you'll have a hell of a time reading because it will be no more than half size. 2. It looks like a photocopy of a photocopy, meaning it's even more illegible.

 

[arby911]

…and severely incomplete, per Kevin McCabe:

"About Chrysler "Assembly Manuals" from Faxon: that's a term used by other automakers, Chrysler called them Graphics Books. That's number one.

Second, in speaking of JUST car assembly, there are at least four graphics books. The chassis graphics book is 8½ × 11, all the others are 11 × 17.

Third, Chrysler grouped graphics books for THEIR convenience. If one particular assembly step could be covered in one sheet for multiple car lines, they'd do it.

At the 2008 WPC National Meet in Farmington PA, some clown (presumably Faxon) was the speaker after the dinner banquet. He extolled us on how he had, at "great" expense, bought "ALL of Chrysler's assembly manuals". I already had the ones I have an knew that if he had "ALL" of Chrysler's graphics books, he'd have needed a couple of 53-foot trailers. Anyway he claimed to have also purchased the right to reproduce these manuals and he was going to be a boon to the Chrysler restoration hobby, yadda-yadda-yadda. I asked him how big a pile of books he'd purchased. He held his arm out about midway between his waist and shoulder and said "About that high". So I pointed out to him that I was familiar with these books and if he'd purchased "ALL" of Chrysler's graphics books and that's all he got, he got robbed. He said me he had a guy working for him who knew about these books and knew how to catalog them, organize them, etc.

Having looked at what he's offering: it's book-salad. If (big if!) this "assembly manual" is the entire body graphics book, there are two problems that I see: 1. the originals were 11 × 17. This book is 8½ × 11, which means you'll have a hell of a time reading because it will be no more than half size. 2. It looks like a photocopy of a photocopy, meaning it's even more illegible.

Ok, a couple of thoughts.

A. Thanks. I believe you. It didn’t give me a warm fuzzy when adding the book I wanted to my cart kept adding a Ford truck manual.

B. I still have the issue at hand, any help you might be able to offer would be much appreciated.

 

[slantsixdan]

I don't have photos or diagrams that will help. If I were in Houston, I'd be happy to head over and go "This one goes here, that one gets clipped onto here, routed around there, and connects there and there" etc. Still, it's not a terribly complex harness; even with the A/C there aren't a whole lot of wires. Going by the wire colour callouts in the diagrams in the factory service manual should get you a long way towards figuring out what connects to where, and once the wires are on (or near) their intended destinations, it should be pretty obvious where the nearby clips and such are. You've got a couple clips on the outboard side of the valve cover, for example, which support the cable which contains your oil pressure sender wire and your engine temperature sender wire, and so on.

 

[arby911]

I don't have photos or diagrams that will help. If I were in Houston, I'd be happy to head over and go "This one goes here, that one gets clipped onto here, routed around there, and connects there and there" etc. Still, it's not a terribly complex harness; even with the A/C there aren't a whole lot of wires. Going by the wire colour callouts in the diagrams in the factory service manual should get you a long way towards figuring out what connects to where, and once the wires are on (or near) their intended destinations, it should be pretty obvious where the nearby clips and such are. You've got a couple clips on the outboard side of the valve cover, for example, which support the cable which contains your oil pressure sender wire and your engine temperature sender wire, and so on.

Agreed, I can work out the connections, that’s the easy part. I just want the locations to be as accurate as possible. There’s a significant history and sentiment attached to this car by the owner, a very close friend, and I want it as perfect as I can make it.

 

[65dartcharger]

…and severely incomplete, per Kevin McCabe:

"About Chrysler "Assembly Manuals" from Faxon: that's a term used by other automakers, Chrysler called them Graphics Books. That's number one.

Second, in speaking of JUST car assembly, there are at least four graphics books. The chassis graphics book is 8½ × 11, all the others are 11 × 17.

Third, Chrysler grouped graphics books for THEIR convenience. If one particular assembly step could be covered in one sheet for multiple car lines, they'd do it.

At the 2008 WPC National Meet in Farmington PA, some clown (presumably Faxon) was the speaker after the dinner banquet. He extolled us on how he had, at "great" expense, bought "ALL of Chrysler's assembly manuals". I already had the ones I have an knew that if he had "ALL" of Chrysler's graphics books, he'd have needed a couple of 53-foot trailers. Anyway he claimed to have also purchased the right to reproduce these manuals and he was going to be a boon to the Chrysler restoration hobby, yadda-yadda-yadda. I asked him how big a pile of books he'd purchased. He held his arm out about midway between his waist and shoulder and said "About that high". So I pointed out to him that I was familiar with these books and if he'd purchased "ALL" of Chrysler's graphics books and that's all he got, he got robbed. He said me he had a guy working for him who knew about these books and knew how to catalog them, organize them, etc.

Having looked at what he's offering: it's book-salad. If (big if!) this "assembly manual" is the entire body graphics book, there are two problems that I see: 1. the originals were 11 × 17. This book is 8½ × 11, which means you'll have a hell of a time reading because it will be no more than half size. 2. It looks like a photocopy of a photocopy, meaning it's even more illegible.

I can just agree Dan. I just got a picture of my restoration of the Dart Charger. How me worked through details with lots of members here like you, Kevin, Don, Keith, Mike, Tmm and so on. I can just imagine how many "books" that was!! I bought the two books from Faxon but I was disapointed.