67-69 Barracuda differences

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  1. RAT ROD AL

    RAT ROD AL I know just enough to be dangerous FABO Gold Member

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    68 had a cig lighter in that hole, to the right of the radio, I believe.
     
  2. SGlez10

    SGlez10 68 Barracuda

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    See it in the image ?

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    • SGlez10

      SGlez10 68 Barracuda

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      Yes, that I knew. I’ll work on getting the lighter in there too. Add that to the list haha
       
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      Since the Op is thinking about buying one and wants to pick between a 67, 68 and 69, I think the main things to think of are which hood, grill, side marker lights and rear decklid panel he likes best. I have a Fastback, so I may be a bit prejudiced, but I really like the hood and nose piece best. I also like the decklid panel best. If you want a 4 speed, I also really like the shift handle best.
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    • RAT ROD AL

      RAT ROD AL I know just enough to be dangerous FABO Gold Member

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      Here are a few pics of a 68 dash pad.
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      As you can see compared to the one above. The 67 pad looks more like the 69 . No ducktale..
       
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      • RustyRatRod

        RustyRatRod Bla de blizhibliz de blatde blizi bla bla FABO Gold Member

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        I actually am glad it popped back up because I've always wondered about the differences in the three years but never asked.
         
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        RAT ROD AL I know just enough to be dangerous FABO Gold Member

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        • SGlez10

          SGlez10 68 Barracuda

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          I just checked them out but none of those would fit my dash. The cut outs on them aren’t consistent with my stereo or AC.

          I’ll keep looking.

          I had another question.

          My engine cast numbers are:
          2780930-340-5

          It’s from a 72 and I have some 360 heads with cast # 3671587

          What are the best heads for me to get the best compression from my 340?
           
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          actually, you are a bit inaccurate about the dash on the 67-69 Barracudas. only the Formula S car came with a "rally" dash with a 150 mph speedometer and trip meter with the option of a tachometer, "performance gage" or clock between the four gage cluster and the speedometer. the "regular" dash in the non S cars only had a 120 mph speedometer black paint on the wide panel between the gages instead of wood, and had no trip meter at the bottom of the speedometer. the burlwood dash was an option in 1967 and that was carried over into the 1968 model year. middle to late production 1968, the wood on the dash changed from burlwood to a regular woodgrain pattern. the lower portion of the dash on 67 and 69 Barracudas is the same design with no "package tray." only the 68 cars had a full tray running the length of the dash at the bottom. the door lock placement was also different. on the 67-68 cars, the door lock button was at the rear top portion of the drivers/passenger doors. on the 69 model, this door lock was moved about 8 inches from the rear top of the door toward the front of the door to make it easier to reach. in 1967 hood had two chrome inserts with a finned design. the 68 cars had the same style inserts but there were three different designs: a fake bolt kind of look; an insert with "340" stamped on it and an insert with "383" stamped on it. the lateral lower rocker panel chrome strips were different on all three years. also, the chrome inserts on the trunk lids between the tail lights were different all three years.
           
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          • RedFish

            RedFish Well-Known Member

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            The instrument panel with round gauge pods is called a rally panel in service manuals, including those few installed in 68 valiants ( due to a parts shortage ). 150 mph and tachometer do not define a rally dash. The wood grain on a dash was part of deluxe interior package that extended first to doors panels, and later to floor console.
            The lower dash pads were designed and produced to protect occupants knees in a collision. Chrysler was against seat belts. Mandatory seat belts laws defeated the propose of this design/feature. Gone for 69 model, never seen again. Call it a package tray if you want. You wont fit a package on the tiny pad around the bottom of that model a/c vent assembly. Its knee protection. AMC Gremlin and others did have a hard plastic tray beneath the dash.
             
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              • Mike69cuda

                Mike69cuda 64 is the new 17 FABO Gold Member

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                My 69 has a 67 instrument cluster in it. All three years will interchange with a some work and a little improvising.
                 
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                Mike69cuda 64 is the new 17 FABO Gold Member

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                DMT has wood grain dash kits that are thin plastic rather than decals. They cover a lot of sins.

                I made an ac rally dash out of a non ac dash and a salvaged piece of an ac dash. The overlay covered up the butcher work nicely.
                 
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                • 65 Cuda 340

                  65 Cuda 340 FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

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                  Here's one, same color but without the stripes, that's been in the same family since new:

                  Bill Elder's 68 Formula S.jpg
                   
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                  • SGlez10

                    SGlez10 68 Barracuda

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                    Wow that’s a beauty. Would love to see the interior. The more pictures the better.
                    Mine has a 340 in it from 1972... we managed to get it started but the carb needs a rebuild and so do the heads. We’ll be taking them off this weekend.
                     
                  • jimharvard

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                    i know ma mopar pretty much built these cars with "whatever was on the shelf" with deviations for all kinds of stuff. here's what one of the "packages" describe as a "rally dash"... 69_Barracuda0025 packages descriptions.jpg
                     
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                    Sorry, have to disagree. Formula S had nothing to do with interior. They all had rally dash(you know that), 150 speedo, pedal trim were all part of decor pkg not "S" pkg
                     
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                    • cosgig

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                      Other distinct differences are...

                      the ignition key switch and mounting are different between all 3 years, and the wiring harness also reflects that.

                      the glovebox door is also different between 67 and 68/9, it was mandated in 68 that the glovebox have a button latch to keep it closed, 67 did not have this.

                      the seats are also different between 67 and 68/9. It was also mandated that the front seat backs latch in place for 68/9, in 67 they just folded forward

                      the dash frame itself also changed from 67 to 68/9. In 68 it was mandated that the top of the frame would be sectioned out for crumple safety, so it is cut out in squares under the top pad. Also the aforementioned key switch area is different every year.

                      the speedometer cable mount changed in 68 to the clip on style, in 67 it was a screw on.

                      Yes, the idler arm has a pass through bolt in 67, so the K frame has 2 ears, in 68 that was changed to the modern tie rod end style and one bolt.

                      should we go into the differences in the 67 trans and 273 rear crank register as opposed to the 68 and later 318/340/360? That will frustrate most swaps between early and late motors/transmissions.
                       
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                      • cudamark

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                        '67 was stud type idler arm like the earlier design. '68 started the though bolt type. Neutral safety switches (in the automatic) went from the single wire switch in '67-early '68, to the 3 wire switch after that. There are all kinds of other difference those 3 years if you really want to get into details.
                         
                      • 65 Cuda 340

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                        That is backwards: 67 idler arm is stud mounted like earlier models, while 68 and later got the stronger, more rigid, less flexible pass through bolt with a two-eared mount. I believe rally champion Scott Harvey had some input into the change, although it wasn't just A bodies that got the new style idler arm mounting.
                         
                      • 65 Cuda 340

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                        That's the only pic I have. I've seen the interior, though, and it is very nice. Also original, as is the paint, chrome, vinyl top and motor. And it's not a low mileage original, either. Has over 100,000 miles on it. Key is it's always been garaged and otherwise well maintained. Owner has several more A body Barracudas, some show worthy, some beaters. His mother bought this one new.
                         
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