All new pricing on our new production 16:1 manual steering boxes Now $299

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Looking to improve your Mopar’s response time and handling? Mopars with manual steering of the 1960’s and early 70’s came with a 24:1 steering box ratio which resulted in 5 turns from lock to lock. PST’s new production Mopar manual box has a ratio of 16:1 or 3.5 turns from lock to lock which provides quicker response in and out of turns. Plus for those that track their car, gain weight savings and horse power by eliminating the weight of the power steering box and pump from the front of the car. This ends up helping with quicker weight transfer to the rear wheels and more horse power from eliminating the drag of the pump on the engine. PST’s manual 16:1 Mopar box is available for A, B, and E body Mopars like the Dart, Valiant, Charger, Barracuda Coronet and Roadrunner. Call 1-800-247-2288 or visit www.p-s-t.com or here is a quick easy link.

Manual Steering Box 16:1
 
Looks great. I have replaced my pump and steering box, and the PS in my 69 Barracuda is still sloppy. I assume the pitman arm will be different. Do you have them?
Thanks.
 
Looks great. I have replaced my pump and steering box, and the PS in my 69 Barracuda is still sloppy. I assume the pitman arm will be different. Do you have them?
Thanks.

Might be the alignment if you have replaced everything else...
 
The sector shaft is the small 1 1/8" so you may need a different pitman arm which we can supply. But if you are converting from power you will need an adapter from mopar performance as the power columns are shorter.

Thanks
James
 
Might be the alignment if you have replaced everything else...
Thanks for the hint. When I finished restoring the car for the first time about 25 years ago, I went completely rebuilt the front end suspension with all new parts and had it aligned. The steering was still a bit sloppy. By that I mean that as I go down the road, it takes more wheel deflection to guide the car than I would like. I realize it isn't a modern rack and pinion car, but it just felt loose. I tried adjusting the steering box, and it helped a little. I got a rebuilt PS pump and steering box, and still had loose steering. About 5 years ago I blew the car apart for a complete repaint, because the lacquer paint I used 20 years before was cracking and hazing. Just for good measure, I rebuilt the front end again and had it aligned by a good shop that really knows old cars. Steering is still loose. Not dangerous, just loose. Maybe they were that way 50 years ago. I would love to buy an AlterKation front end, but they are a bit pricey. I am thinking that a manual box might be the way to go.
 
That's a fantastic price! With PST's reputation for quality, you should sell a lot of those.
 
Looking to improve your Mopar’s response time and handling? Mopars with manual steering of the 1960’s and early 70’s came with a 24:1 steering box ratio which resulted in 5 turns from lock to lock. PST’s new production Mopar manual box has a ratio of 16:1 or 3.5 turns from lock to lock which provides quicker response in and out of turns. Plus for those that track their car, gain weight savings and horse power by eliminating the weight of the power steering box and pump from the front of the car. This ends up helping with quicker weight transfer to the rear wheels and more horse power from eliminating the drag of the pump on the engine. PST’s manual 16:1 Mopar box is available for A, B, and E body Mopars like the Dart, Valiant, Charger, Barracuda Coronet and Roadrunner. Call 1-800-247-2288 or visit www.p-s-t.com or here is a quick easy link.

Manual Steering Box 16:1
Will contact you shortly James just waiting on a final price on the block machining and assembly. Cheers
 
The reason I mentioned it was that I have had cars with all new suspension that seamed vague and wandery even though they had been aligned. But after an alignment by a top notch old school shop it was like new car!

My 68 fast back drives super tight and responsive with nothing more than Moog rubber offset bushings and front/rear Hellwig sway bars.
And since I sell 911s ,NSX, AMGs and Jag F-types for a living I am used to tight handling cars.

I just have to think that if your pitman or idler arms are worn enough to make your car wander much you could tell by just manipulating them by hand.

But they arent that expensive and it cant hurt to have new ones.
 
How well do they steer at rest with the car not moving?
I.E. parallel parking.
I do have stock sized radials on the front (205 - 70 - 14's) and power steering that is kinda loose. (1974 Dart Sport 360)
Was thinking about firm feel, but this might be an option especially for header clearance, weight, etc.
Personally, i have owned many mopars in the past with power and manual steering, and i like them both.
The manual ones were probably 24:1 and with my shoulder problems that i have today, it might be a major concern to steer the car at low to no speeds especially at 16:1.
 
They are not that bad at rest. It will take some strength compared to the 24:1 ( which we do also offer) I have driven a couple of cars with this and installed one on a Duster. To date we have sold 91 with no returns and all comments have been positive.

Thanks
James
 
They are not that bad at rest. It will take some strength compared to the 24:1 ( which we do also offer) I have driven a couple of cars with this and installed one on a Duster. To date we have sold 91 with no returns and all comments have been positive.

Thanks
James
Thank you for your response, James. (that happens to be my middle name)
I don't expect it to be a one finger at rest turning deal, but as long as you don't have to be Arnold Schwarzenegger to turn it
at rest would be a good thing.............
Somewhere in between would be good!
Arm effort 16:1 versus 24:1, how much difference?
What do you use for lube in them?
What is the price of a 24:1 if i decided to go that way?
 
The application chart does not show 1968 Dart. Just want to be sure it would work? Thanks
 
James if possible show us a couple pictures of what we need to convert from power steering-pictures of the parts and process needed. Also what a manual replacement would include.
 
The only part that you would need besides the box itself if you are converting from power to manual is an extension/adapter. As the power columns are shorter than the manual. Currently we do not offer this adapter, but it can be purchase through mopar performance or Mancini racing. Here is a picture of the adapter.

Thanks
James

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I was on the fence about the 16:1 for my 65 Dart. I installed it last week direct bolt on non power steering and its great and so much tighter on the road at 60 mph. The steering isnt much harder at a stop (parallel parking) than the original 24:1. I really like it especially the price!
 
I was on the fence about the 16:1 for my 65 Dart. I installed it last week direct bolt on non power steering and its great and so much tighter on the road at 60 mph. The steering isnt much harder at a stop (parallel parking) than the original 24:1. I really like it especially the price!
Great info/review. Those are the questions I wanted to ask about. How difficult is it to install with the motor and everything else already in the car?
 
Great info/review. Those are the questions I wanted to ask about. How difficult is it to install with the motor and everything else already in the car?
i have a 340 4 speed with Dougs headers and mini starter and just unbolted the steering box and it came down out past everything!
 
i have a 340 4 speed with Dougs headers and mini starter and just unbolted the steering box and it came down out past everything!

PERFECT! That's the exact same setup I have. Engine is out right now but I'd rather hold off on more spending for right now, if it's and easy swap later on.
 
The only part that you would need besides the box itself if you are converting from power to manual is an extension/adapter. As the power columns are shorter than the manual. Currently we do not offer this adapter, but it can be purchase through mopar performance or Mancini racing. Here is a picture of the adapter.

Thanks
James

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Do you know the size of the ID of the female side, and the OD of the male? For some reason the new manual gear box I just put in has a 3/4 male coming out of it, and my stock column fitting is a 1/2 female splined socket, and no one seems to make it in that size.
 
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Do you know the size of the ID of the female side, and the OD of the male? For some reason the new manual gear box I just put in has a 3/4 male coming out of it, and my stock column fitting is a 1/2 female splined socket, and no one seems to make it in that size.
N/m...Apparently I can't measure. The Mancini one is right. Specs are 5/8 OD on the male end, 3/4 ID on the female side, 3.75 inches long.
 
FABO members get a 10% discount on these too? :)

We have the box and the adapter as a kit now on our website to make conversion easier. The discount applies to orders of $200 or more on any order.

Thanks
James
 
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