Another small bolt pattern wheel vintique steel wheel question

[4spdragtop]

Thanks, yeah im starting to understand now. The difference in "looks" had me thinking something was definitely wrong.
Thanks!

I'll throw my dawg in this hunt. The backs of the lug nuts are not the contact surfaces for wheel mounting. This is a picture of one of Vixens original 1964 small bolt pattern wheels. Notice how the lug nut holes are negative compared to the wheel contact areas. That's how they are designed. That's also why the factory lug nut torque is only 55 FT LB, so as not to distort the wheels. The positive bevel on the lug nuts meeting the negative bevel on the wheels is what holds the lug nuts tight. So Steve, your new wheels are just fine. They are DIFFERENT, but not WRONG. They'll be fine. Just torque them properly.

Sorry, I forgot the picture. LOL

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[thedave8]

 

[thedave8]

Lug nut doesn't torque against the drum (with the wheel absolutely flat against it), the torque is against the wheel.

It would be like having Cragars where the shank lug nut is flush with the inside of the wheel, the wheel would never be tight.

That's totally different

 

[thedave8]

I'll throw my dawg in this hunt. The backs of the lug nuts are not the contact surfaces for wheel mounting. This is a picture of one of Vixens original 1964 small bolt pattern wheels. Notice how the lug nut holes are negative compared to the wheel contact areas. That's how they are designed. That's also why the factory lug nut torque is only 55 FT LB, so as not to distort the wheels. The positive bevel on the lug nuts meeting the negative bevel on the wheels is what holds the lug nuts tight. So Steve, your new wheels are just fine. They are DIFFERENT, but not WRONG. They'll be fine. Just torque them properly.

Sorry, I forgot the picture. LOL

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There is a half inch difference between where that edge contacts the drum vs where the lug nut surface is on mine.....that factory rim is the way it should be, the entire wheel would contact drum

 

[thedave8]

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[4mulas]

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Yah I don’t like those.

In my opinion, and I thought they would be until you pictured them, the inner ring should be a lot closer to the drum face, like I say I see them commonly about 1/32-1/64 of an inch lower than the outer ring which would suck up with lug nut tension and make the ring touch the drum or rotor.

Call them and get a return going?

Those are vintiques? They usually know what’s going on and how to do them….

 

[RustyRatRod]

There is a half inch difference between where that edge contacts the drum vs where the lug nut surface is on mine.....that factory rim is the way it should be, the entire wheel would contact drum

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Yeah I was lookin at that in that first picture you posted. That outer raised ring is what mounts to the hub, but IT SEEMS LIKE that smaller inner ring around the center hole SHOULD be the same height and it's not. I'm not smart enough to decide if that's "RIGHT" or " WRONG", but I don't like it.

 

[matthon]

White wheels are 15x6 bbp dated 2008.

Look the same as my sbp dated 2019.

In both cases wheels fit fine, plenty of lug nut engagement.

Not sure what is right or wrong, or the exact measurements, but the studs are long enough.

 

[Bennoel 10]

White wheels are 15x6 bbp dated 2008.

Look the same as my sbp dated 2019.

In both cases wheels fit fine, plenty of lug nut engagement.

Not sure what is right or wrong, or the exact measurements, but the studs are long enough.

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The second or last pic (black rim) reminds me of a 1970 rally wheel . The little self tapping style screws that hold the center cap on are recessed in the area between the two rings / ridges ???

 

[furyus2]

Lug nut doesn't torque against the drum (with the wheel absolutely flat against it), the torque is against the wheel.

It would be like having Cragars where the shank lug nut is flush with the inside of the wheel, the wheel would never be tight.

I was looking at a 2007 Mopar Action, and E booger says that those rims from wheel vintiques, and the factory ones that look the same are to prevent rotor warping.

 

[4mulas]

These are my aftermarket 6’s and 8’s. First 2 pics are the 6’s then the last two are the 8’s. Big bolt pattern though.