Gas price going up // Rethinking the new project car

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ValerianMagnum

ValerianMagnum

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Gas price exploded in canada since october , we pay 1.68 $ @ litre of gas ...i dont mind the duster and its gas consumption for fun summer days once in a while...but my new toy , 69 ratty valiant makes my mind go in all directions , goals are weird...* Have a ratty looking car with patina and old funny notlagia look ( 1970s -hippie style ) little lumpy cam , black steel wheels , light body and components but...i wanted a sleeper an ugly rocket ahahahah but with the prices so high im telling myself that maybe my stockish 360 with 350hp ( xe268 cam ) with a 904 reverse valve body ( 2 200 stall ) and highway gears could be the way . Theres the a833od that is still available too, but the car was born : 273 2bbl and 904 , i wanted to keep the look too , all kinds of ideas passed by with a 3.9 magnun v6 swap even a srt4 4cyl swap..but even then doing all the work and $$$ modification will be tricky , i tought about buying a cheap 318 and sleeve it for 273 pistons but even there it will be $$$$. So 360 / 904 /2.xx gears and 20 mpg ? With a 2 500 pound valiant ? Your toughts !
 
Really thinking about buying a retired electric Forklift for the motor. Did you all see what AZN and Farmtruck had Jeff Lutz build with one.
 
It does make you think. Here , we have been at $5 a gallon for a while. In a few years, they will only be producing electric cars. There is this expression about torpedo's.
 
Yeah-no, there's a large pitcher of Kool-aid for everybody that forgot "electricity prices will necessarily skyrocket", good luck with that path.
 
Killer6 said:
Yeah-no, there's a large pitcher of Kool-aid for everybody that forgot "electricity prices will necessarily skyrocket", good luck with that path.
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I agree. If anyone thinks electric cars and electricity will be affordable well then, take a sip!!
Sure the tech for electric cars will get better and better, but power...ha hold on to your ***!
 
What would I do?
5.2 Magnum with stock EFI and stock Magnum exhaust manifolds, dual exhaust. 32RH/999 transmission- lockup convertor, but no overdrive- so no crossmember/floorpan mods. Direct bolt in to replace the 904. Deeper first gear, and lockup gives a bit more efficiency on the highway. 3.23/2.94 gears in the rear. Maybe a small cam, but I'd start out stock and get the bugs ironed out first.
5.2 gets you a nice street driver and EFI keeps the mileage and driveability where you need it. Plus parts are available everywhere.
 
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Electric cars should have solar cells coating the skin of the body for recharging thru out the day .
 
mbaird said:
Electric cars should have solar cells coating the skin of the body for recharging thru out the day .
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But then the electric company won't get their cut. And just wait until the government adds a road tax to your electric bill when petroleum revenues fall...
 
Murray said:
It does make you think. Here , we have been at $5 a gallon for a while. In a few years, they will only be producing electric cars. There is this expression about torpedo's.
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Doesn't make me think about it at all.......they can kiss my *** with that electric car bullshit.....a muscle car is a muscle car period!!!!! Yeah I get it that some EV's may be faster, some motorcycles may be faster, some diesels may be faster.....BUT NONE OF THAT **** IN THE ENGINE BAY OF A GENUINE MUSCLE CAR IS COOLER!!!!
 
mbaird said:
Electric cars should have solar cells coating the skin of the body for recharging thru out the day .
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those might run the radio......not enough to do ****. We were on a ferry to Alcatraz that had a sizeable array of solar cells on top. probably 20 house panels. I read up on the green solar propoganda sheet they had displayed. Turns out those solar cells powered the ships emergency lighting only..ie a few hallway LED lights and the EXIT signs! That was it!

How about a 3.6 Pentastar motor? Almost 300HP from an NA V6 and quite a few in the boneyards from minivans and throw away V6 Chargers.
240/225tq at the wheels in a Charger, throw a tune on it and that ads 40/40 at 5500

No headers....cast exhaust dump into the head.
 
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2.5 4 cyl and 5 speed from a Dakota should fit nicely in a A-body.
 
pishta said:
those might run the radio......not enough to do ****. We were on a ferry to Alcatraz that had a sizeable array of solar cells on top. probably 20 house panels. I read up on the green solar propoganda sheet they had displayed. Turns out those solar cells powered the ships emergency lighting only..ie a few hallway LED lights and the EXIT signs! That was it!
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Maybe we could mount wind turbines to the roof, so as you get up to speed you start recharging the batteries... :rolleyes:
 
Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
 
318willrun said:
Thought we were talk'n about gas mileage? Ok, put a 440 in a A-body with two 750 DP's on top :)
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Well if the focus is soley based upon a financial reason then trying to reinvent the wheel and make that all work in a car that it was never designed to go into kinda kills that.....
 
'68cuda416 said:
Well if the focus is soley based upon a financial reason then trying to reinvent the wheel and make that all work in a car that it was never designed to go into kinda kills that.....
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I take it you didn't read the OP's first post. He's considering a 3.9 V6 ?? Is that reinventing the wheel? The quoted post was a stupid answer
 
318willrun said:
I take it you didn't read the OP's first post. He's considering a 3.9 V6 ?? Is that reinventing the wheel? The quoted post was a stupid answer
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He's in over his head, first he complains about not being able to afford the price of gas and then he wants to put a POS engine in it that will require fabrication/money to make that happen and may not net him any gas mileage savings in the end anyhow and for certain will be one boring *** ride.
 
'68cuda416 said:
He's in over his head, first he complains about not being able to afford the price of gas and then he wants to put a POS engine in it that will require fabrication/money to make that happen and may not net him any gas mileage savings in the end anyhow and for certain will be one boring *** ride.
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So? His time, his money, his project, he can do whatever he wants with all 3. I just played along with his thoughts he shared. If his thoughts bother you, then one click of a button and you leave the thread :) don't get ulcer's. And it's not up to you to decide what's boring to him. He'll decide that.
 
pishta said:
those might run the radio......not enough to do ****. We were on a ferry to Alcatraz that had a sizeable array of solar cells on top. probably 20 house panels. I read up on the green solar propoganda sheet they had displayed. Turns out those solar cells powered the ships emergency lighting only..ie a few hallway LED lights and the EXIT signs! That was it!

How about a 3.6 Pentastar motor? Almost 300HP from an NA V6 and quite a few in the boneyards from minivans and throw away V6 Chargers.
240/225tq at the wheels in a Charger, throw a tune on it and that ads 40/40 at 5500

No headers....cast exhaust dump into the head.
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Another junk engine......
 
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