Hellcat Hemi in Original Superbird!

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Even if it is ANOTHER engine swap, this is something that is new for everyone with the engine being a Hellcat motor. It will be interesting to see how they finish it out with all the remaining components to make it all come together AND keep the engine cool.
 
Not my choice of vehicle because I think the superbirds are ugly as hell (although I do respect their history)- but I love it. If I could afford a hellcat motor in my dart, I'd do it... I love swaps and the ingenuity behind it all... The critical thinking, and engineering that goes into it can be amazing... Little things such as weight distribution (my motor sits just a tiny bit offset for driveline phasing and weight with no passenger) and also as close to the firewall as possible for the best center of gravity available, and better handling. Those little details you figure out and build around make it a great piece of art.

Always keep pushing the bar... I love any personalization of vehicles.

At least its not an LS swap thank God!! :D
 
Anyone know if that bird is a clone or genuine?
I say let em hack away and have their fun with the clones. They can put 20" wheels and carbon
fiber space car seats in it if they wish.
Kind of hate to see the owner of a original superbird doing this though. Probably inevitable.
Makes me think of how the model A's were restored to new original condition and when their generation of owners passed they got sold and hot rodded by the next generation Time keeps a Rollin.
 

It is an original 440 Superbird. I'm sure they are not hacking the car for the swap so that it can be put back to original. I love everything about the Daytonas and Superbirds. That said it is very refreshing to see a few modified and not just another OEM restoration because of value.



Fast Daytona!
[ame]https://youtu.be/dF7yic1NA-A[/ame]
 
fj5 duster said:
it is an original 440 superbird. I'm sure they are not hacking the car for the swap so that it can be put back to original. I love everything about the daytonas and superbirds. That said it is very refreshing to see a few modified and not just another oem restoration because of value.



Fast daytona!
https://youtu.be/df7yic1na-a
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Never got the point of the Superbird; my guess is it's one of those cars everybody bought was a good idea because of the era it was produced in. The new Hemi, sigh.
 
I like the superbirds and daytona's. They are unique and stand out big time if you like them or not.
 
PoisonDart74 said:
Never got the point of the Superbird; my guess is it's one of those cars everybody bought was a good idea because of the era it was produced in. The new Hemi, sigh.
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The point was to win super oval stock car races, that was it. Mopar had to produce and sell a certain number to the public to be considered a "production" car, one of the rules of NASCAR (The S still stood for STOCK) at the time. They were real duds on the lot as they were considered ugly. Many were demoted to the rear lot after a year of collecting dust. The Hemi wasnt even new. Imagine that.....
 
PoisonDart74 said:
Never got the point of the Superbird; my guess is it's one of those cars everybody bought was a good idea because of the era it was produced in. The new Hemi, sigh.
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The point of a Suprebird??? :scratch:

How about being the FIRST to break 200 mph on a closed loop track, even before Indy did it??? :notworth:

Using aerodynamics to help make the body more streamlined and slip through the air... :read2:

The wing cars DOMINATED NASCAR SO BADLY THAT THEY WERE HANDICAPPED AFTER ONE YEAR TO A MAX ENGINE OF 5.0 L AGAINST THE COMPETITION'S 7.0 L??? :wack:

Bobby Isaac owned the NASCAR speed record for over 13 years and could still hold it if they had tires back then like today... :notworth:

Then Bobby Isaac set 24 world speed records with that same car at the Bonneville Salt Flats with the Nascar HEMI engine and only one 4 bbl carb! :notworth:

Not to mention one of Richard Petty's all time favorite race cars... :love9:

The vertical stabilizer on the wings helped bring the back of the car behind it when spinning out like the feathers on a dart. The back end gets pulled back in line by the wing, eliminating the need for that trap door flap like the modern NASCAR vehicles have... :wack:

My Superbird has been up over 150 MPH on the high bank oval track at Chrysler Chelsea Proving grounds with plenty more pedal to go, we did not want to push it past our ability and loose control, and that was one lap, no practice, with my brother driving on a learner's permit at 15 years old at the first Mopar Nats, and it's not a Hemi. :tongue9:

We backed off through the first turn to let the guy in front of us have some distance, when he was halfway around the second turn nailed it to get to 150 mph in the straight away after coming off the first turn at over 90 mph, then coast down in the second turn to catch the pack in front of us... (and let the pack behind us catch up...) If you think that your A-body can beat it, bring it on... :binky:

I thought that my 68 Barracuda 340 was fast until I got to drive the Superbird... :banghead:

The 69 Daytona and 70 Superbird were designed for one reason - to win NASCAR and break 200 MPH and they succeeded! The competition could not beat them, just like the super stock Hemi Darts and Barracudas. They OWNED THEIR CLASS!!! :cheers:


They were a limited production one-year only car made available so they could race them on the track. :prayer:

It's a shame to hack one up to put a modern HEMI in it, especially when there are many superchargers available for the 426 HEMI that can make MUCH MORE HORSEPOWER and only require cutting a hole in the hood versus hacking up much of the car for the newer engine with less potential and hassling with adapting modern computers and electronics to a much older era vehicle.... Especially just to get ratings for a stupid tv show.... :finga:

Yeah, no biggie.... :sleepy2:

How much do you really know about the winged cars??? :read:
 
krazykuda said:
The point of a Suprebird??? :scratch:

How about being the FIRST to break 200 mph on a closed loop track, even before Indy did it??? :notworth:

Using aerodynamics to help make the body more streamlined and slip through the air... :read2:

The wing cars DOMINATED NASCAR SO BADLY THAT THEY WERE HANDICAPPED AFTER ONE YEAR TO A MAX ENGINE OF 5.0 L AGAINST THE COMPETITION'S 7.0 L??? :wack:

Bobby Isaac owned the NASCAR speed record for over 13 years and could still hold it if they had tires back then like today... :notworth:

Then Bobby Isaac set 24 world speed records with that same car at the Bonneville Salt Flats with the Nascar HEMI engine and only one 4 bbl carb! :notworth:

Not to mention one of Richard Petty's all time favorite race cars... :love9:

The vertical stabilizer on the wings helped bring the back of the car behind it when spinning out like the feathers on a dart. The back end gets pulled back in line by the wing, eliminating the need for that trap door flap like the modern NASCAR vehicles have... :wack:

My Superbird has been up over 150 MPH on the high bank oval track at Chrysler Chelsea Proving grounds with plenty more pedal to go, we did not want to push it past our ability and loose control, and that was one lap, no practice, with my brother driving on a learner's permit at 15 years old at the first Mopar Nats, and it's not a Hemi. :tongue9:

We backed off through the first turn to let the guy in front of us have some distance, when he was halfway around the second turn nailed it to get to 150 mph in the straight away after coming off the first turn at over 90 mph, then coast down in the second turn to catch the pack in front of us... (and let the pack behind us catch up...) If you think that your A-body can beat it, bring it on... :binky:

I thought that my 68 Barracuda 340 was fast until I got to drive the Superbird... :banghead:

The 69 Daytona and 70 Superbird were designed for one reason - to win NASCAR and break 200 MPH and they succeeded! The competition could not beat them, just like the super stock Hemi Darts and Barracudas. They OWNED THEIR CLASS!!! :cheers:


They were a limited production one-year only car made available so they could race them on the track. :prayer:

It's a shame to hack one up to put a modern HEMI in it, especially when there are many superchargers available for the 426 HEMI that can make MUCH MORE HORSEPOWER and only require cutting a hole in the hood versus hacking up much of the car for the newer engine with less potential and hassling with adapting modern computers and electronics to a much older era vehicle.... Especially just to get ratings for a stupid tv show.... :finga:

Yeah, no biggie.... :sleepy2:

How much do you really know about the winged cars??? :read:
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Well stated!
They were made to do one thing humiliate Ford and Chevy on the track.
 
I'm guessing that is no where near a reasonable cost engine. Probably could have
built up a gen 2 Hemi for the price tag of that hellcat engine.
It would have bolted right in with the proper factory parts and got more respect from us older guys.
I guess to the TV show crowd its about doing something new for ratings.
We have been getting passed up by time for decades now. I'm used to it but still refuse to jump on the new hemi bandwagon. Nothing wrong with the way the old ones can put a big grin on a face.
My favorite winged cars have always been the ones that are in their as raced condition.
Cut fender wells, roll bars and black tape wraped on the steering wheel. Would luv to take a winged racer around Daytona.
Can't imagine that this car when all the money is spent on her will have the same effect they were born to do.
 
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