HELP!! 360 Engine with transmission and headers?

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  1. 67DodgeDart360

    67DodgeDart360 Well-Known Member

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    Yesterday I put in the 360 engine with transmission and tried to put the headers in and I couldn’t fit them in. I have a 67 Dodge Dart. How do I put the headers in? Do I put them in the car before putting the engine and transmission in? Or can I put the headers in after? I appreciate the feedback.
     
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    If you have any pictures please Post them. Thanks
     
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    Read the instructions? Always works for me.
     
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      which headers
       
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      Long tube headers.
       
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      What instructions? They came with the engine when I bought it.
       
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      These are the ones I have.

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      Look up the Hedman headers for your car on Summit. They have a PDF link to the instructions.
       
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      do they have a name or number on them?
       
    • MoparMike1974

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      In my experience, those cheaper headers require them to be placed in the car first then the engine dropped in. The steering linkage goes through the header on the driver side. This will require removing the tie rod end from the drag link.
      Where are you at in Maryland?
       
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        Aside from the drag link issue that wasn't mentioned in the instructions from Hooker I had to undo both motor mounts and jack it up until the bell housing was against the firewall, then fish the driver side in from underneath. Passenger side went in first with the aid of the short oil filter. '72 Swinger column shift. Don't even think about Purple Hornies th?id=OIP.jpg the crossmember won't allow it :BangHead:
         
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        Tti headers slide right in from underneath.
         
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        The ones I have used over the years had to be laid in place before dropping in the engine (both race headers and cheap-O's). You can probably just lift the engine up a little with a hoist and get them in...hard to say without looking at it.
         
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          You can jack the engine up to get them in but I found its much easier to put the headers in first then drop in the engine.
           
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          those look similar to my no name headers that came with my dart. As stated above, my steering goes right through the middle of them so that has to partially come apart to get the headers in/out. That being said, at least with mine, they had to go in from the bottom and I got them in before the engine was in, it might work if you just pull the engine up a bit but I don't think mine would ever fit with the engine sitting on the mounts
           
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            Swapped out my son's headers last year in 70 swinger. Installed tti long tubes, had front end up 2 1/2 feet( car blocked and supported accordingly ) . Had the steering box out as we were swapping it as well, power steering pump, battery, steering linkage removed. Drivers side slide up from bottom and passenger side went down easy enough. Not a fun job but wasn't terrible.
             
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            TTI headers are no comparison to the ones in question as far as fitting them. Steering box, starter and brake booster all get in the way. Unless you remove all these items first it will give you a fit trying to install them. If the engine is out the simplist way is to drop the headers in first. You will need a friend or two to hold them up out of the way and ease them in as the engine drops in.
             
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            Passenger side should be easy. Driver's side you'll have to pop the steering linkage apart, get the car real high in the air, lift the motor off the mounts a few inches and install from the bottom.
             
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              Yep. That's the way it's always been and always will be on A bodies!
               
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                I have to get the car up high (2+feet), to get my old Hooker Comps to slide in. Gotta get enough ground clearance to slide them straight up. That's the trick. Tight fit for sure, but they do slip in. Helps having someone on the topside pulling and guiding them in. Of course, got to disconnect steering linkage. I don't have to mess with the motor mounts, but after putting in new, un-squished mounts, the job is easier still.

                Be well,
                Pat
                 
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