how do you feel about electric performance cars?

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  1. 318willrun

    318willrun Stomper 4x4... we kept energizer in business

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    • abdywgn

      abdywgn dismantler

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      and here you can go to Mjer's, plug in your car and go shopping. hafta look if there is a place to pay or they are just givin' it all away...happens everyday.
       
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      • A56

        A56 MoParAffliction

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        For me it's not all about speed and power. I enjoy the sound of starting a well tuned gas motor humming through some form of mufflers (or not), kicking in the carb(s), downshifting and blasting down the track or highways and byways. I do not want to own or drive something that sounds like a Wal-Mart scooter, bumper cars or my grandsons drone. To me, this is the late Nikola Tesla getting even with Edison for stealing his patent.
         
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        • A56

          A56 MoParAffliction

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          lol, sorry but I never saw a redneck who didn't like plumes of black smoke from their diesel. Unless electric trucks will have a smoke simulator button like James Bread from Bond.
           
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          • Garrett Ellison

            Garrett Ellison Amateur driver on public roadway, do not imitate..

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            The fact that it has to have something to replicate the noise of a proper power plant for the vehicle tells me that even the people that were building this are having a difficult time adjusting to the idea. And whenever I hear of mind bending acceleration, I must pay homage to the king of acceleration R.I.P. Sammy Sammy Miller Zandvoort
             
          • mbaird

            mbaird mbaird FABO Gold Member

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            Its like the difference between a Paddle Shift auto and a real manual trany.
            Paddle shift may be faster but I still want to row through the gears !
            There will still be us rebels out there.
             
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            • Oldmanmopar

              Oldmanmopar Going left turning right FABO Gold Member

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              They are here on race tracks



               
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              • Dfr360cuda

                Dfr360cuda MAGA Again

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                /////////////////////////////////////////////////
                You can pay $4.
                I'm plugging mine in when I get to work.
                 
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                • Cudabnu

                  Cudabnu 64 Valiant vert, 318/727

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                  i used to do that, but we recently moved and need to get work wired up to start doing that again.
                   
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                  • Tooljunkie

                    Tooljunkie King of cobble/master of the broken bolt FABO Gold Member

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                    Steve Darnell said it very well today
                    “As long as there is petroleum around, i will keep burning it”
                    Same goes for me..
                     
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                    • MrJLR

                      MrJLR Built, not bought FABO Gold Member

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                      Vegiterians make soy crap to look and taste like meat....
                      Just sayin.....

                      Jeff
                       
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                      • jos51700

                        jos51700 Well-Known Member

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                        Yawn.....

                        When the sound, feel, smell, and personality of the gas motor goes away, so will automotive enthusiasts. E-hotrodding will be boring because there's no challenge. You think people will be rewinding motors in their garage? It's gonna be a catalog race. Biggest motor, hottest battery, lightest car, win. TLDR? $,$,$ wins. No skill, no talent, no thought. And without challenge....yawn.

                        And people have not thought this through. (TeslaDeaths.com: Digital record of Tesla crashes resulting in death ) Look at what people are doing when they're dying in these cars. Car's on fire and the door won't open. If the engineering is THAT poor, imagine the rest of it.

                        Gotta ask: What's that e-truck going to do when he runs low on charge in the desert? Plug in? Or in the forest? No solar panel there.

                        The people advocating these are same ones advocating self-driving cars, and they haven't put an ounce of thought into any of it other than 'what is it possible to do?'. Never 'should I do this?'. Jurassic park all over again.

                        When cars are mostly-autonomous, people will not be practiced in how to drive, especially in the extenuating circumstances that will require it. Imagine that, your auto-drive shuts off and you haven't actually taken the wheel in fifteen years. How's that gonna go? And they clearly have not been to a demolition derby. Ask anyone watching a demolition derby about turning autonomous cars loose on the street, and how you'd stop them if they went nuts....

                        And e-cars are NO different. What do you think they'll do with electric rates when EVERYTHING is electric? How do you think those lovely people under the PG&E in Commiefornia feel about an electric car right about now? Talk about putting all your eggs in one basket....
                        You can store five gallons of gas in your shed for a rainy day. What about your battery? And exactly how much lithium is available for all these cars, trucks, motorcycles, cell phones, vibrators, laptops, and flashlights? Shoot, you can't even buy U.S.-made lead anymore, let alone U.S-made Lithium. How do you think our national security will hinge on that little fact?

                        None of the half-wits making this stuff are being held accountable to answer these questions. It's 'get it to market' and $$$ and screw the rest.

                        This will not end well, and the sad part is, I'm not a Luddite!
                         
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                        • tonysrt

                          tonysrt FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

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                          When they give electric away for free and the cars have some serious travel time I would think about it. Here on Long Island we have the highest electric rates. Our gas is cheaper than out west, but thanks to the Hoover Dam their electric is cheaper. Let them out west drive electric, because between smog and high gas prices their better off. I wonder how electricity is made in the rest of the Country? Probably burning some type of fuel. Are these people so naive about electric cars?
                           
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                          • 67autocross

                            67autocross A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

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                            I can’t wait to get some high performance electric conversion parts to hot rod one of my old cars... I would love to commute to work in a AWD 8 second car... best part would blasting away from traffic lights and cops not even noticing.
                             
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                            • A56

                              A56 MoParAffliction

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                              They're coming for your petrol lol

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                              • jos51700

                                jos51700 Well-Known Member

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                                Don't even get me started on where grid electricity actually Comes from for most people.

                                That said, I wonder if the environmental people pushing this electric car business want to buy them if they can't buy from CHINA, where environmental laws (and human safety protections) don't really exist.

                                They're just pushing the problem to another part of the globe.
                                 
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                                • Biff

                                  Biff Well-Known Member

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                                  Great thread ! Wait If you travel long distance can you pull a gen set outa the trunk and charge the car , or leave it running and plugged in while you drive ? You know I think I’m onto something here :)
                                   
                                • pishta

                                  pishta I know I'm right....

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                                  These are design numbers, Who knows if their target will be hit.
                                  • Acceleration 0-60 mph
                                    1.9 sec
                                  • Acceleration 0-100 mph
                                    4.2 sec
                                  • Acceleration 1/4 mile
                                    8.8 sec
                                  • Top Speed
                                    Over 250 mph
                                  • Wheel Torque
                                    10,000 Nm (7,367 ft/lbs....!)
                                  • Mile Range
                                    620 miles
                                  • Seating
                                    4
                                  • Drive
                                    All-Wheel Drive
                                  • Base Price
                                    $200,000
                                  I was at the Formula-E races in Long Beach 2 years ago and those cars sounded like slot cars going down the track, and they were friggin quick. I think a drop in crate E-drive with a common bolt pattern would be fantastic. GM even made it to look like a V setup. Heck, they built that ugly SSR.......
                                   
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                                  • pishta

                                    pishta I know I'm right....

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                                    Pull the generator on a little tear drop trailer. Serious.......
                                     
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                                    • abdywgn

                                      abdywgn dismantler

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                                      maybe they would notice, but unless they were looking they probably would not hear you
                                       
                                    • RustyRatRod

                                      RustyRatRod 30 Degrees Outta Whack FABO Gold Member

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                                      I LOVE gasoline powered muscle, but I have to admit I really like the electric movement too. It just shows hot rodding is gonna LIVE no matter what. Google Tesla powered Mercury. If you don't like that car, you got some problems. lol
                                       
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                                      • abdywgn

                                        abdywgn dismantler

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                                        or a solar panel strapped to the roof OR a roof,deck lid and hood made out of solar panel material! never happen, they could not figure out how to tax you
                                         
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                                        • pishta

                                          pishta I know I'm right....

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                                          And doing it legally in the CA car pool lanes! :icon_fU:
                                           
                                        • DrEamer

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                                          Nail number one in the electric car coffin, as of right now most of the country use coal, or other fossil fuel to make electricity. Somewhere I saw a picture of a charging station in a remote area, it was powered by a diesel generator. That brings up point two. There is a great deal of our country that is remote, or off enough of the grid it just won't be economically feasible to put charging stations in those areas for quite some times. That brings up point number three. Our current grid can not handle 100 percent electric vehicles, it can't even handle busy air conditioning use in California without resorting to rolling blackouts.

                                          It's going to be awhile before most people can afford these types of conversions. I have a friend that does conversions, including some very end end vehicles. When we talked about older cars such as our, his comment was that they are too heavy to convert with any real performance without being extremely expensive as of now. If you could get the good performance, then you give up any real range. Here is a link to his shop just to see some of the kind of stuff that he does. Notice most of the cars are smaller light weight builds. Welcome to SHIFT Electric Vehicles
                                           
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                                            We make our power with water ?
                                             
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