I Guess I Need A System?

[SpeedThrills]

I’ve been working on getting my Duster painted. (Disassembly, mostly). As expensive as it is nowadays, I’m trying to do as much as I can myself.

I don’t have a place to spray, but I think I can get it prepped and ready to be sprayed. (I won't be painting it, and a painter hasn't been found yet.)

I have some experience, but it goes back 40-45 years ago. I imagine it won’t be perfect, but I definitely want to do it myself.

I want to start prepping the body. It’s not in bad shape. I want to get wax and grease remover, primer, sealer, and fillers, etc. I only have minor bodywork to do. But I want to use the right wax and grease remover, primer, filler, sealer, etc.

As far as compatibility is concerned, is there a product line that I can use that won’t be a problem when it’s time to paint?

Where I live now, there are no paint and body supply stores anywhere near here. So I’m gonna have to buy it online.

 

[JDMopar]

Southern Polyurethane Inc. is my go to place for epoxy primer, 2k primer, thinner and clear coat. They have really good wax & grease remover too, both water base and solvent based. Top notch stuff at a good price. If you want factory colors, you can order that thru TCP Global.

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[SpeedThrills]

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Sounds good, JD. I've run across that name in my research. My big concern is; will whatever system I choose be agreeable with the as of yet undetermined painter? I have been reading that painters like to use what they are comfortable with, which I can understand. But, isn't that what the sealer is for? About 5 years ago, I stripped it and sprayed it with Evercoat epoxy primer. I can sand that off and start over with the Southern, although the Evercoat has held up very good.

I'm thinking of getting it ready for paint, sealing it and just handing it to the painter to spray. A guy I have used before (he fixed de-lamination issues on our '07 Accord, and it looks great!) looked at it and saw the poor match between the 'glass fenders and the doors and ran, suddenly bringing up several other so-called "issues", after saying how clean the car is. He also said he didn't want his name on a car he didn't prep. Oh well. I was ready to hand him a big chunk of change. I have already corrected the fender alignment.
Beginners luck, I guess. (I did some outside the box thinking.) After doing that, I decided I might as well do the rest. Other than the mess it'll make of my garage, I'm actually looking forward to seeing what I can do.

 

[JDMopar]

If the Evercoat epoxy has held up well and there is no surface rust on it, I wouldn't think you'd need to start over. You will need to scuff the existing epoxy before putting anything else over it. Just clean, clean, clean between every coat of primer, keep your hands clean, don't lay a roll of tape or anything on it and you should be fine. You could even paint the jams, engine compartment and trunk before hand off. It will all come back to you as you go. There are a ton of good paint channels on You Tube. Paint Society is my favorite. I've been using base/clear paint. It makes me look like a MUCH better painter than I really am...lol. If you do find a painter to hand it off to for final paint, get it up to the point where you think it's ready, except for the sealer. Leave that last coat of primer unsanded, then ask him to come over and y'all sand that last coat of primer. He can then call yay or nay on if it's ready. Let him do the last cleaning and sealer, then color. Let him get the brand of paint he's used to and he may be more comfortable picking up at that point. Maybe let him pick the sealer color too, because sealer color plays a big part in the color of final paint.

 

[SpeedThrills]

Great ideas and advice!

After I replied last night, I was thinking that maybe I should stay with the Evercoat system for other products too. There’s no surface rust, I used epoxy hoping that would seal it. I’ll research.

That makes sense to leave the sealer off and let the painter inspect it. Will do.

There’s still a chance the guy that ran scared because of my fenders, lol, will paint it. There aren’t many guys that do that kind work around my way. He works in his garage, and sprays them in a booth where he works. He’s a painter, a guy he works with does the body work on his jobs. Technically, the body guy got scared of the fenders and scared him. He may be all right when he sees what I did. He’s a bit difficult to work with, but as I mentioned, he does good work. He’s very motivated, doesn’t take forever.


I have begun watching Paint Society also. I like them. I’ll end up with more knowledge than experience. Probably a dangerous combination. Lol.

 

[JDMopar]

Evercoat makes good products, so there's not a thing wrong with sticking with that line. I use their Rage Gold filler......best there is! Get a good primer gun and also one of the purple spray guns from Harbor Freight. The purple guns have a 1.4 tip and are good for doing door jams, bottoms of hoods and trunk lids, etc. If you talk the guy into spraying it, get his thoughts on you doing all the jams and stuff so he can just back mask it and spray the outer body panels.

 

[SpeedThrills]

Evercoat makes good products, so there's not a thing wrong with sticking with that line. I use their Rage Gold filler......best there is! Get a good primer gun and also one of the purple spray guns from Harbor Freight. The purple guns have a 1.4 tip and are good for doing door jams, bottoms of hoods and trunk lids, etc. If you talk the guy into spraying it, get his thoughts on you doing all the jams and stuff so he can just back mask it and spray the outer body panels.

I already have these guns. I used the primer gun, (1.8) when I primed it. Nothing fancy, but okay for primer, I suppose. Doing the jambs, trunk, and under hood is something I'll consider. I did do it once before. I could take the doors, fenders, and hood (lift-off 'glass) to him off the car.

My garage is heated, but not ventilated for this kind of work. I'll do what I can now, and get after it when it's warmer, and I can open the door. Right now, my neighbors like me.

This job has been stressing me out. It's had many different plans. I can see it working out now. My wife has been a gracious sounding board. But I think she's going to do it soon!