Ignition Advice Please

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440 with 512 kit, Trickflow 270 heads, and all the other good parts for my Dodge Dart Drag Car (only). You'll be able to tell that I'm doing this from scratch as a novice, and on a retirement budget.

Ready to purchase my Ignition System. Looked at the MSD 6AL, 7AL-2 and 7AL-2 Plus. I'll need the Ignition Box, Distributor and Coil (and anything else I need), but it looks like there are many other options.

I don't need anything fancy, but would like to get the basic options, control of the launch RPMs, maybe the max full throttle RPMs, and simply have the right Ignition for a 10-second 3,000 pound car without overspending for things I don't need.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks,
 
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I plan on running a 6al -2.
I'll see how it works, my friend said it's for a grandma's car but I don't have $1000.00 for better stuff.
I am interested in the 6al plus box too.
 
BHB4408 said:
440 with 512 kit, Trickflow 270 heads, and all the other good parts for my Dodge Dart Drag Car (only). You'll be able to tell that I'm doing this from scratch as a novice, and on a retirement budget.

Ready to purchase my Ignition System. Looked at the MSD 6AL, 7AL-2 and 7AL-2 Plus. I'll need the Ignition Box, Distributor and Coil (and anything else I need), but it looks like there are many other options.

I don't need anything fancy, but would like to get the basic options, control of the launch RPMs, maybe the max full throttle RPMs, and simply have the right Ignition for a 10-second 3,000 pound car without overspending for things I don't need.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks,
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You do know it's winter & winter really is a great time to put together a build thread with lots of pictures.
I too am building my dart from scratch, it's been quite the experience, my budget sucks lol.
 
I would keep away from the new MSD systems they have alot of failures. Petronicsx make a similar unit the 510 for 1/4 of the price/ Therer are alot of ways to do this that is just one. And made in the USA! just add a curved for your setup distributor.

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Compared to the MSD 6AL, the Pertronix 510 generally offers a higher spark energy, a smaller form factor, and a more advanced rev limiter, while the MSD 6AL may have slightly better adjustability and is considered more widely compatible with various engine configurations; however, the 510 is often considered more powerful in terms of spark energy per its size.

Key differences:

  • Spark Energy: Pertronix 510 typically has a higher spark energy compared to the MSD 6AL.

  • Size: The Pertronix 510 is significantly smaller than the MSD 6AL.

  • Rev Limiter: The Pertronix 510 often has a more advanced rev limiter with multiple spark options, while the MSD 6AL has a basic adjustable rev limiter.

  • Adjustability: The MSD 6AL might offer more adjustable features for timing and other settings compared to the Pertronix 510.
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If needed I still have a few setups. $220 and the ride NORS


 
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I wouldn’t buy a 6 anything.

Never used the Daytona Sensor stuff but I wouldn’t be afraid to use it.

As a rule, you can’t get “too much” ignition.

So buy the biggest you can afford even if you have to do some undesirable stuff to do it.

And if I was going to use an MSD product it would be the digital 7.

Like I said, I see little use for a 6 box from any manufacturer.
 
Newbomb Turk said:
I wouldn’t buy a 6 anything.

Never used the Daytona Sensor stuff but I wouldn’t be afraid to use it.

As a rule, you can’t get “too much” ignition.

So buy the biggest you can afford even if you have to do some undesirable stuff to do it.

And if I was going to use an MSD product it would be the digital 7.

Like I said, I see little use for a 6 box from any manufacturer.
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Have you run a 7 on the street?
 
Newbomb Turk said:
I wouldn’t buy a 6 anything.

Never used the Daytona Sensor stuff but I wouldn’t be afraid to use it.

As a rule, you can’t get “too much” ignition.

So buy the biggest you can afford even if you have to do some undesirable stuff to do it.

And if I was going to use an MSD product it would be the digital 7.

Like I said, I see little use for a 6 box from any manufacturer.
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I'm just curious. Did you talk **** about the 6 before the 7 came out?
 
Newbomb Turk said:
Yes. That’s all I use. Nothing I have a say in has a 6 box.

I save those for grandmas ****.
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What kind of lifespan do you see out of a 7 box and accompanying / matching coil on the street? I'm just curious because all the manufacturer's info I see on them says not to use them on the street.
 
Msd 6 will work just fine for your car but a 7al2+ would be better (if you can afford it). As far as a coil, a pro power coil is what I would go with. (For drag race only). Just my opinion.
 
halifaxhops said:
I would keep away from the new MSD systems they have alot of failures. Petronicsx make a similar unit the 510 for 1/4 of the price/ Therer are alot of ways to do this that is just one. And made in the USA! just add a curved for your setup distributor.

AI Overview
Learn more

Compared to the MSD 6AL, the Pertronix 510 generally offers a higher spark energy, a smaller form factor, and a more advanced rev limiter, while the MSD 6AL may have slightly better adjustability and is considered more widely compatible with various engine configurations; however, the 510 is often considered more powerful in terms of spark energy per its size.

Key differences:

  • Spark Energy: Pertronix 510 typically has a higher spark energy compared to the MSD 6AL.

  • Size: The Pertronix 510 is significantly smaller than the MSD 6AL.

  • Rev Limiter: The Pertronix 510 often has a more advanced rev limiter with multiple spark options, while the MSD 6AL has a basic adjustable rev limiter.

  • Adjustability: The MSD 6AL might offer more adjustable features for timing and other settings compared to the Pertronix 510.
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If needed I still have a few setups. $220 and the ride NORS


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I am useing the 510 set up on my dakota. I think it works great and have Been useing it for over 6 years with no problems
 
Newbomb Turk said:
I wouldn’t buy a 6 anything.

Never used the Daytona Sensor stuff but I wouldn’t be afraid to use it.

As a rule, you can’t get “too much” ignition.

So buy the biggest you can afford even if you have to do some undesirable stuff to do it.

And if I was going to use an MSD product it would be the digital 7.

Like I said, I see little use for a 6 box from any manufacturer.
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I mentioned they were for Grandma's car already lol
 

Newbomb Turk said:
Don’t laugh. You could use two boxes and coils and each box would fire 4 plugs instead of 8.

Maybe you use just one coil. I forget how it was being done in the late 1980’s.
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Great, let's do it.
Thanks
 
Go to 6:00 to look at the spark output of an MSD 6 ignition. The Crane Hi-6S has built in adjustable 2 stage rev limiter and timing retard, too. The Crane system puts out similar spark intensity, it appears to be a whole lot stronger than a factory Chrysler ignition box.
Crane Electronics HI-6S Multi-spark Ignition Module | eBay

Being that you said drag race only, though, I would run a HI-7.
 
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