Pro Mod Crash

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Something looks funky, the Elite red car is much smaller in all pix. The 2 cars should be close in size in some of those pix.
 
Those are great photo's.Doug can you explain to me why the Corvette looks so much larger than the Camaro? Optical illusion ?
When I get a chance I will look at them again. This photographer has won multiple awards, he can do some amazing things with a camera.

I stood at the top end of the track for the Nitro final. Was late at night, so lighting was far from optimal. Soon as they launched I just held the shutter down. Last couple of frames the car in the right lane...well...the motor started to eat itself. The sparks in my images look quite a bit larger than they did when I was looking thru the camera. I will post the images when I get them edited.
 
Just took a real quick look. He was using a 600mm lens. When the lens gets that long strange things happen to the image. It is far above my understanding...just yet...but if you google lens compression it may explain why the Corvette looks very large.

This explains it, kind of.

What is Lens Compression?
 
his fuel tank almost made it......It looks like the camaro is 3/4 size in front of that rolling vette, but measure the front track between the 2 cars on your monitor and youll find that its the same, even in that pic.
 
It's not that hard to see why wall slaps and more serious crashes are on the rise particularly in bodied cars. Power increases are out running chassis and more importantly air flow technology. From Stockers to Pro Mods. They just don't have the down force to accommodate the power increase. Because of the nature of "Stock" categories? Can't just throw more "Wing" at the issues.

Governing drag race bodies have some decisions to make. In my day of the 70s? (Beginning before that in the early 60s) containing H/W failures was the issues of the day. Today? Keeping cars from becoming airborne.
 
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Interesting that he knew he was in trouble in the second frame. Throttle plates closed.
 
Just took a real quick look. He was using a 600mm lens. When the lens gets that long strange things happen to the image. It is far above my understanding...just yet...but if you google lens compression it may explain why the Corvette looks very large.

This explains it, kind of.

What is Lens Compression?

Yeah in a couple of them pics, I was "damn that's a fatass corvette" LOL
 
It’s an optical illusion created by the viewing angle on each vehicle. These cars look very small when viewed from the front but are actually quite long. When one is sideways and on its side, it appears much larger than the one being viewed from a front angle.

You can watch the effect happen in this video of the actual crash.

https://www.corvetteonline.com/vide...-pro-mod-racer-jeremy-rays-wild-topeka-crash/
 

It's not that hard to see why wall slaps and more serious crashes are on the rise particularly in bodied cars. Power increases are out running chassis and more importantly air flow technology. From Stockers to Pro Mods. They just don't have the down force to accommodate the power increase. Because of the nature of "Stock" categories? Can't just throw more "Wing" at the issues.

Governing drag race bodies have some decisions to make. In my day of the 70s? (Beginning before that in the early 60s) containing H/W failures was the issues of the day. Today? Keeping cars from not becoming airborne.

Our recent Nitro event was an NFC event. Trap speed in the 1/4 for many of them was in the 250mph range. I was at the top end of the track for several of the runs. Most of the time I was watching thru the camera but on one pass I watched as a fan. Was watching them move around quite a bit. This image was taken during the final round. Notice the escape "hatch" lifting...
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Memory is very fuzzy...but back when the T/F cars were still running the 1/4 didn't the NHRA do a few things in an attempt to slow them down some? Think one of them was a certain gear ratio had to be used. Pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that the NHRA was also concerned about insurance companies starting to get concerned...

Last year when the 10.5/275r cars were at SCR we also had one of the NHRA Division 6 higher ups at the track. Got to talking with him and asked why they raced an 1/8th mile...he told me that for one the drivers prefer it as it is easier on the equipment. He said from the NHRA side of it the 1/8th mile is for safety sake. These guys are putting out truck loads of power. One of the SBC guys, his 60' time is 1 second flat. Supposedly the most powerful SBC in the country. Another racer had a mountain motor, believe it was in the 900" range....and if I remember right he had 4, might have been 6, nitrous kits on it. The NHRA guy told me to stand at the 1/8th mile mark and look at the rear tires....they were doing the "burn out grow". Can't imagine that the contact patch was much bigger than 4.5" wide. If I remember right there was several passes in the 4.0 area...with trap speeds approaching 180mph.

I have a buddy that races bikes. He prefers grudge racing, but considering that there is only one bike in the area that can run with him...and it is down right now thanks to its owner forgetting to drain the water out of the cooling system and having the motor crack in several areas. Anyway, Skippy races on street tires, there is no slick on this thing. Have seen him run 8.1 at 179mph or so. We were talking about getting the bike slowed from that speed. He said that the most frightening part of each pass is when first gets on the brakes as the bike becomes a bit unsettled. There is supposedly a new track being built a bit south of us. Is not going to be a sanctioned track, will be used for Race Wars type of events. And Grudge racing. Skippy...and his buddy with the broken turbo ZX14 that is a bit quicker/faster than Skips drag bike were really looking forward to this track. Thing is the shut down area is a couple hundred feet short according to my buddies calculations.

Gotta wonder when the sanctioning bodies are going to say enough is enough. How many "G" forces does the driver of a Nitro car experience at launch? At what "G" force does the human brain turn into jelly?
 
Our recent Nitro event was an NFC event. Trap speed in the 1/4 for many of them was in the 250mph range. I was at the top end of the track for several of the runs. Most of the time I was watching thru the camera but on one pass I watched as a fan. Was watching them move around quite a bit. This image was taken during the final round. Notice the escape "hatch" lifting...View attachment 1715356244
Memory is very fuzzy...but back when the T/F cars were still running the 1/4 didn't the NHRA do a few things in an attempt to slow them down some? Think one of them was a certain gear ratio had to be used. Pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that the NHRA was also concerned about insurance companies starting to get concerned...

Last year when the 10.5/275r cars were at SCR we also had one of the NHRA Division 6 higher ups at the track. Got to talking with him and asked why they raced an 1/8th mile...he told me that for one the drivers prefer it as it is easier on the equipment. He said from the NHRA side of it the 1/8th mile is for safety sake. These guys are putting out truck loads of power. One of the SBC guys, his 60' time is 1 second flat. Supposedly the most powerful SBC in the country. Another racer had a mountain motor, believe it was in the 900" range....and if I remember right he had 4, might have been 6, nitrous kits on it. The NHRA guy told me to stand at the 1/8th mile mark and look at the rear tires....they were doing the "burn out grow". Can't imagine that the contact patch was much bigger than 4.5" wide. If I remember right there was several passes in the 4.0 area...with trap speeds approaching 180mph.

I have a buddy that races bikes. He prefers grudge racing, but considering that there is only one bike in the area that can run with him...and it is down right now thanks to its owner forgetting to drain the water out of the cooling system and having the motor crack in several areas. Anyway, Skippy races on street tires, there is no slick on this thing. Have seen him run 8.1 at 179mph or so. We were talking about getting the bike slowed from that speed. He said that the most frightening part of each pass is when first gets on the brakes as the bike becomes a bit unsettled. There is supposedly a new track being built a bit south of us. Is not going to be a sanctioned track, will be used for Race Wars type of events. And Grudge racing. Skippy...and his buddy with the broken turbo ZX14 that is a bit quicker/faster than Skips drag bike were really looking forward to this track. Thing is the shut down area is a couple hundred feet short according to my buddies calculations.

Gotta wonder when the sanctioning bodies are going to say enough is enough. How many "G" forces does the driver of a Nitro car experience at launch? At what "G" force does the human brain turn into jelly?
I think Kenny Bernstein quit because of detached retinas. The G's have to be unbearable. No wonder why Force is so goofy! LOL
 
How many "G" forces does the driver of a Nitro car experience at launch? At what "G" force does the human brain turn into jelly?

Many more than a drag car can produce on launch...

"..Top Fuel drag racing world record of 4.4 s over 1/4 mile, g force = 4.2 g...(slightly more than a catapult carrier launch)
Max. turn in an aerobatic plane or fighter jet, g forces ranging from 9–12 g
Maximum g force for human on a rocket sled = 46.2 g
Death or serious injury likely, g force can be greater than 50 g.."
>> Brief human exposure survived in crash has g forces > 100 g<<
 
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