refinanced...laugh or cry?

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pishta

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Wife called and she refinanced us out from under a $$k credit card debt, gone..property taxes are now in the mortgage payment so no $7500 prop tax bill each april.. $400/mo less total bills but were back on a 30 year loan...sounds great but 10 years of paying the mortgage are up in smoke...I'm sure ill feel better when I see the credit card bill at 0..
 
Wife called and she refinanced us out from under a $$k credit card debt, gone..property taxes are now in the mortgage payment so no $7500 prop tax bill each april.. $400/mo less total bills but were back on a 30 year loan...sounds great but 10 years of paying the mortgage are up in smoke...I'm sure ill feel better when I see the credit card bill at 0..

Man 7500 a month for taxes, ouch. Make one extra payment on the mortgage every year and you will knock that thirty down substantially.
 
put that devil credit card in a safe or in the fireplace. Pay an extra $50 on the mortgage every month-that will prob take 8 years off your loan.
 
plus the lower rate will be great. plus what bad said make the same payment and have it paid off in 15years
 
cut up the credit cards and then CALL AND CANCEL THEM! the stats say that over 2/3 of people that consolidate there dept just run it right back up. like it was said before pay a little extra (toward the principal) every month and you would be surprised at how much it knocks it down. your ahead of the curve already by acknowledging your debt and paying it off.
 
Talk to whomever does your taxes. You should be able to deduct mortgage interest. That should help digest the 30 year payment.

S.
 
cut up the credit cards and then CALL AND CANCEL THEM! the stats say that over 2/3 of people that consolidate there dept just run it right back up. like it was said before pay a little extra (toward the principal) every month and you would be surprised at how much it knocks it down. your ahead of the curve already by acknowledging your debt and paying it off.
It is true about running them back up. A knuckle headed buddy of mine hit up his 401k to the tune of 120k to pay off his cards.......4 months later they were at 60k and climbing....He bought 2 cars on his cards....
 
I got a 30 year Mtg in 1994. Paid on it for about 13 years, paying an extra (approx) $100 per month on the principal. Did a refi at that time, for 15 years, and lower interest rate. Also took out an extra $5,000 for a new roof. Kept making the same payments as the original mtg. Last year, I did another refi, for 10 years, at a lower rate, yet. I am still making the same payments as on the original mtg. At this point in time, that is making a double principal payment. If I can continue to make the same payments, the current ten year mtg will be paid of someware between 4 and 5 years, from taking it out. Both refi's had zero closing costs, and am now at 3.25%.
So instead of paying a mtg untill 2024, I should have it paid off sometime in 2017

I have very little credit card debt, less then $1,000.
Time for you to lock your cards in a safe deposit box.
 
We have been pretty good, have not used the credit cards for the past 2 years, they are linked to the bank account so they are used as ATM type cards as we have not bought anything we could not pay for outright with the exception of a cheap fridge but that was paid off in 2 months...Im feeling a little better now, but that was a tough pill to swallow. I like the extra payment a year method, buddy told me about that 10 years ago. and in 2 years, 1 kid grads private school so that's another $350 a month...Hey, we are better off than MANY Americans, God willing.
 
I feel new cars are the biggest rip off out there-short of hanging out at casinos.

If you got the cash for them great but to buy on credit ?? My brothers 1998 car isn't pretty but it gets him around, just like the new cars do and you don't even have to go that old.

Yeah he had to spend $1,500 on a trans and another $1,000 on other stuff the past year, still beats buying a $30,000 car, IMO
 
I feel new cars are the biggest rip off out there-short of hanging out at casinos.

Agreed. Other then my old Mopars, the daily drivers in my family.
86 Toyota 1 ton PU
88 Diplomat
94 Ford Ranger
93 Caddy deville
The Toyota and Dippy were bought new. The Ranger and Caddy were bought for $500 ea, several years ago, as "backup" vehicles
 
Steve, see if you can make weekly mortgage payments, that is what Lori and I do. If the mortgage monthly is $1200, the weekly is around $300 so technically its the same amount, but it knocks time off the mortgage HUGE!! Back in the day you could actually pay your mortgage daily!
 
I don't know the numbers for your situation, but you likely aren't any better off in the long run. The taxes are rolled into mortgage now, which is easier, but that money doesn't build any interest giving it over to the escrow fund. But then again having one payment for it all sometimes seems worth it.
 
A 15 year is much better than a 30 year (less interest and it is all paid upfront in the 30 year). Also the payments are not that much higher for a 15 year compared to a 30 year.

Or do as previously mentioned to make extra payments that go directly against the principal to knock the loan down faster.
 
When my dad bought in 1968 his monthly paymentwas 68 dollars which included escrow to cover prop' tax and home owners insurance. 30 years later the monthly had risen to 172 dollars per month.
I still remember coming in from school to find dad sitting at the kitchen table cutting up credit cards too. He had done a consoldation loan then slowly built dept on all those cards again. He taught me some valuable lessons.
I signed 10% for 25 years with Jum Walter Homes. Refinanced during the 3rd year to a 20 year note at 8.39% . Chopped off nearly 2 years without a payment increase.
Because I didn't play the escrow game my payment has never changed from 604 per mo.
Never sent them an extra dime either. There were times when i could have paid extra toward the principle. About 8 years ago I had an opertunity to pay the balance off completely. There were even more times when I was very glad we didn't, especially the nearly 3 years my wife couldn't find a job. We had always had extra money withheld from our wages that guarenteed a tax refund which would cover the property taxes and home owners. That doesn't work when you dont have a job.
When a half dozen friends and neighbors said I was crazy for not putting my money in Carolina Investors for 7.39 gains, I just agreed , "Yep I'm the crazy one". It was a scam and they lost their asses.
Some will point out the flaws in my method to the madness like loss of interest earned on that tax withholding method of saving and/or point out the interest we've paid out too. I consider that the fee we've paid to play by their rules, honor our commitment to the terms and maintain our credit rating over all the years.
Come August 2014 we'll have a mortgage burning party without a single regret. :)
Everyone has to figure out what is the best plan for their own income, debt, and spending habits.
Good luck to all.
 
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