Ride Heig... huh?

[Ironracer]

Hey everyone, hope Y'all are doing g as well as can be. I just replaced my 10 year old, shot poly bushings with new rubber ( proforged, w/ pins) and the, (after calling Moog) now " obsolete " grrr, problem solving strut bushings. Tighten em up just snug,and drove about 100' to a more level driveway to set Ride height. When putting the torsion bars back in I left the lca hang in their lowest position. Then turn the screws in until they contacted the Adjusters about 9 turns each side. That was before I moved her. Drove her over there turn them in where is the top (lowest part) of nut is flush w bottom of arm. Looked okay, send Rover back into my carport the damn fienders are sitting on top of the tires,Again! This ain't the first time I've done this,but what the hell is going on? Did I screw it up? I'm already pissed off about this thing as I had a friend of mine( used to be a good machinist and mechanic) and a good welder. Sent home Jim's video on that... but when he welded the braces on the lower control arm, i can move the pins about a half an inch at the end of their travel, the further side from arm.( they slide back and forth in the arm in the socket about 1/8 inch each Direction) if I got to take the damn things back off or something I will cut through all those welds n take em somewhere else. I haven't drove my car in about 2 months... anyway I'm trying to figure out if I did something that screwed up the ride height (s)

 

[Jim Lusk]

Too much toe in and grippy tires. I never believed it until I saw it personally on my son's Barracuda. The toe in and grippy tires just suck the front end down. When you back up the car will go back up. Just take some toe in out of it and take it to an alignment shop.

 

[Ironracer]

Too much toe in and grippy tires. I never believed it until I saw it personally on my son's Barracuda. The toe in and grippy tires just suck the front end down. When you back up the car will go back up. Just take some toe in out of it and take it to an alignment shop.

Hey Jim! Thanks for Reaching back ! Much appreciated ! I put a floor jack underneath the K member (before I did any adjustment( checked the toe in w/ a tape (probably doesn't mean much ) but we also had eyeballs on (using the back tires )to square him up and it was 3/4" shorter the rear. So when I reset the ride height I adjusted the tow In, pretty close again using a tape measure the car looks good and by the time I moved it back to its spot the fenders were on top of the tires... ugh
Also,was originally 318 car, stock T bars....

 

[Jim Lusk]

It doesn't take much toe in to cause it. Also have to measure with weight on the front end and the front end settled and, if the front end keeps pulling down, you'll never get it right.

 

[Ironracer]

It doesn't take much toe in to cause it. Also have to measure with weight on the front end and the front end settled and, if the front end keeps pulling down, you'll never get it right.

Definitely I took my measurements w/ car on the ground . I just used the Jack to alleviate the tire. Sorry about the previous post I was using voice to text I went back and cleaned it up hopefully it seems closer to English now

 

[Ironracer]

It doesn't take much toe in to cause it. Also have to measure with weight on the front end and the front end settled and, if the front end keeps pulling down, you'll never get it right.

Do you think the T bars could be old ? Well , I mean beat?

 

[Jim Lusk]

No, it's not a torsion bar problem. With near absolute certainty I can tell you that it is toe in. Worn out bars would not change height just by rolling the car forward. A guy told me about it and I didn't believe him (at an SCCA auto cross). Then we show up with my son's Barracuda and slowly driving it forward the front end sucked down (I believed him then). Set the toe right and it never did it again.

 

[Ironracer]

No, it's not a torsion bar problem. With near absolute certainty I can tell you that it is toe in. Worn out bars would not change height just by rolling the car forward. A guy told me about it and I didn't believe him (at an SCCA auto cross). Then we show up with my son's Barracuda and slowly driving it forward the front end sucked down (I believed him then). Set the toe right and it never did it again.

That's as interesting as can be! I've never had this kind of issue before but then again this car is giving me a few issues that I haven't ran across... she ain't a rust bucket, never been hit. Was drag raced w/my buddies 340 outta his 71 #s Cuda.... its a Stout mill. Dogged another one of our friends 426 Hemi in his 71 convertible. And that's no lie..

 

[Ironracer]

No, it's not a torsion bar problem. With near absolute certainty I can tell you that it is toe in. Worn out bars would not change height just by rolling the car forward. A guy told me about it and I didn't believe him (at an SCCA auto cross). Then we show up with my son's Barracuda and slowly driving it forward the front end sucked down (I believed him then). Set the toe right and it never did it again.

I took her to an alignment shop last October and they gave me the "toe and go", so I took her home before I tore up my new tires did the move correction bushing spacing out word in the front, I've got the other ones I ordered last year I guess I can stick them and going in the rear... in your opinion, is setting toe, with the tape measure, and using the rear tires to somewhat Square everything up, even a valid way of doing anything? I took her to an alignment shop a few months ago they said they had $100,000 machine and told me to drop her off, they do Rvs they do this, they do antique cars, ect. They had my car long enough to take it for a joyride I guess in this is a pretty big shock but they called me up 20 minutes later and told me to come get it, the tech caint do anything with it, but they sure as hell moved it. I try not to hang on the issue but the fact that the :tech: looked at my car, spoke with me, and I left it there, pisses me off. Why have me leave it ,why move( drive it). Sorry for the rant.

 

[Ironracer]

No, it's not a torsion bar problem. With near absolute certainty I can tell you that it is toe in. Worn out bars would not change height just by rolling the car forward. A guy told me about it and I didn't believe him (at an SCCA auto cross). Then we show up with my son's Barracuda and slowly driving it forward the front end sucked down (I believed him then). Set the toe right and it never did it again.

My friend I got the car off added a leaf to the springs, and I've got 295s on the back on 15s. Evidently he had the stock shocks on there so I had to get the proper uns, cuz it was pinning the rear end down, causing serious issues with traction. When I thought the height was set, fender was approximately 1.5" off tire. I ain't trying to sound like a broken record. I REALLY VALUE YOUR TIME AND EXPERTISE, also , I definitely appreciate your advice ,but I'm just kind of stupefied on this. Come to think of it, the bassline settings I'm reading, from other people, maybe for newer torsion bars. Ii seem to remember the torsion bar adj bolts heads were way up in the "holes ' when I broke her down

 

[67Dart273]

I once junked a more-door A with a slant that had a hogged out LCA mount. I could not believe how damn difficult it was to move that car a few feet--even on/ off the trailer, etc. The front end would wind itself into a pretzel and not go anywhere LOLOL This was not even "sticky" tires LOL

 

[Ironracer]

I once junked a more-door A with a slant that had a hogged out LCA mount. I could not believe how damn difficult it was to move that car a few feet--even on/ off the trailer, etc. The front end would wind itself into a pretzel and not go anywhere LOLOL This was not even "sticky" tires LOL

So "Reamed" out the K?

 

[MoparLeo]

When you set the "ride height" was it to factory specs? Or just raising up to where you think it should go ?

 

[Ironracer]

When you set the "ride height" was it to factory specs? Or just raising up to where you think it should go ?


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I just put it where it looked like it was before.

 

[MoparLeo]

That is what a lot of people do. Most don't know that it needs to be set to specific spec for the alignment to work properl
I posted the procedure from the Factory Service Manual for people who want to know the proper way top do it..

 

[Ironracer]

That is what a lot of people do. Most don't know that it needs to be set to specific spec for the alignment to work properl
I posted the procedure from the Factory Service Manual for people who want to know the proper way top do it..

Cool deal. Thank You!