So many intakes not enough $$$

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    Ok guys on my 318 I ran a Weiand Stealth. Now I'm building a 408 and want to get opinions. Do I run the Stealth again on my 408 or run my Torker II? Or do I go a totally different route and get another intake? Opinions please!
     
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    You have the stealth, run it. It's a good intake and as your title states.... "not enough $$$"
     
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      If I already had the Stealth I'd run it, if I was buying I'd get an Edelbrock Air Gap! 65'
       
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        So far both say to run the Stealth. What about the Torker 2 or isnt that too good of an intake?
         
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        Single plane vs.dual plane. The Torker II is a single plane.
        Some guys swear that dual plane is best for a street car.
        Some say single plane for a stick car or a car that sees more strip time than street.
        Dual planes make power down lower in the rpm range say,1500 up.
        Single planes start making power in the 2000/2500 range and all depends on the total package,cam,carb,gears and the like.
         
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        I've found this to be a bunch of BS both in practice and in dyno time. i've tried a bunch of intakes. The best 2 intakes to be the edelbrock performer RPM and the victor. The tradeoffs were small, the RPM range doesn't change much. Here is what I found...

        The RPM will make torque sooner and peak similar. It will fall short on both numbers. It has some obvious lacking in fuel distribution cylinder to cylinder.

        If you aren't running a lot of gear or have a lower stall speed, the RPm is the way to go on a street car.

        To the OP, when you're poor you run what you have. An intake can be changed down the road.
         
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          Torker 2 will be better here. Already more torque with stroke. Single plane will let it breathe better.
           
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            Engine combo has a lot to do with it.
            Also, what the car is intended for.

            An example (in extremes) of such can be;

            408 cubes coupled with;
            Small, cam, headers, low stall converter, 3.55’s and numerically smaller gears, intended for Hwy driving and some strip, = dual plane.

            Big, cam (like a 250@050 & greater) higher numeric gear ratio (4.10’s and up) more so intended for a blvd. bruiser or more track, a single (small) plane is best.

            A big single plane like a super Victor or an Indy are really racing intakes and everything else to back it up.

            What is your goal?
             
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            • famous bob

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              my experiance w/ big chevy small blocks , was that if a single plane hurts it , it aint makin enough power to start with.
               
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                Yep, that is why I started the sentence with "Some Say"
                 
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                  Chevy's like restricton before the heads. MOpars do not.

                  You take a mopar and dyno it, a bigger carb and a better intake will always make more power. Try it on a chevy.. It may make more power, may.. but they don't respond the same and not without consequences.
                   
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                    my stroker started with an air gap fully ported , changed to a victor and it is better all around , even mpg went upon the highway , i say go victor or torker with a stroker
                     
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                      3B537805-E589-49F3-B784-D8F11DBEB20E.png Speaking of intakes I saw this on Facebook today. This guy is sick.
                       
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                      • 512Stroker

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                        Dam!
                         
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                          That looks like what I had in the past. I’d collect them and run them, then swap them out. Then I’d do a cam change and start with the intake and carb combos again.
                           
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                            that is one serious collection of intakes
                             
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                            • famous bob

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                              B.S. !!~
                              All my chevy friends that have ''really fast '' cars have all gone to bigger and bigger carbs and all that go with it , their small block heads flow more than almost all mopar heads . Dont believe it , try this one on ------LOW 8`S , ALL MOTOR . IMG_0526 (1).JPG
                               
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                                YOu missed the point.

                                Chevy's and mopar respond differently to bigger carbs and bigger intakes. My statment has nothing to do with peak power.
                                 
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                                • famous bob

                                  famous bob mopar misfit

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                                  MY 406 SBC CHEVY RESPONDED VERY WELl W/ A SINGLE PLANE AND A BIGGER CARB. , LOST NOTHEING DOWN LOW WENT 10;20 IN A VEGA , 11.90`S IN A PICK UP , WITH 3 SIZES SMALLer than stock JETS IN THE REAR OF THE CARB . , WAS EXPERIMENTIN W/ GAS MILEAGE AND FORGOT TO CHANGE THEM BACK .
                                  That truck got 16.1 on the hiway too ---------
                                   
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                                  Let me explain this a little better. On similar engines, putting a bigger carb on a chevy didn't make a huge difference in power, it also was more soft or soggy if you will. Putting a restriction before the head on a mopar has a much more profound result. GOing to a bigger carb on a mopar has in my experience made significant HP differences and had no effect on driveability. Changin the intake on a mopar added power and again with little to no difference in manners. Changin it on a chevy changed the cruve and the manners.

                                  These are just my findings. Don't get too hung up on it.

                                  Do your own testing and see what works. Mopars like carb size and intake flow.
                                   
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                                    I've said this before, if your stroker is soft on the bottom you made a mistake somewhere. I've never seen the need to run a dual plane on one in a performance application.

                                    If your chevy likes a restriction before the head the intake was too big to begin with or you made a mistake in parts selection.
                                     
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                                      ALREADY HAVE in the not so distant past , disagree w/ u -------------
                                       
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