So, what would you do?

What would you do?

  • Get to work!

  • Go back to school!


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gunbunny

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Here's the story.
Sorry if it's a little too detailed. As I typed, I kinda vented also!
I am a very experienced, Mopar trained, ASE certified, parts man. I am actually qualified to do things over and above what the scope of a Mopar parts manager calls for.
I am also Mitsubishi, Ford parts manager and aftermarket trained. (more on the Ford thing in a sec)
June of 2015 I was recruited from a job I liked. I was promised certain things, and offered a salary that was awesome. I would be the parts manager at a new Mopar parts room in a new full line Chrysler Dealership. There was an existing dealership, but it would be closed and moved 30 miles up the highway.
There was just one small catch, I was asked to fill in as a Ford parts manager for a brief period.
No sweat, I'll muddle thru. I went to every class, took every course available to me and became Ford certified in less than 2 months. I did what I was needed to do, and eventually I was sent to the old Chrysler dealership as it needed my attention.
I took the parts room that I was sent to and actually turned it into a serious profit center. I did enough that Chrysler saw that there was a turn around and was asking how. They even took the time to come out and see what I was doing.
It was simple, play by the rules that Mopar set and don't let outside influences dictate how you do business. I became known as a "prick" in the area. I stopped the freeloading and abuse.
all is well up until the dealership group politics started to come my way. There was a person within the group that is the pet of the owner. The guy is basically a know it all that knows nothing (I called him Dennis's menace). This guy was sent out to where I was ( to the delight of the people at the main store), my boss told me that I was to work with this guy, but I didn't work for him. Guy shows up and promptly questions what I'm doing. It just went down hill from there. I tolerate the guy, but I keep him at arms length and out of the inner workings. He asks questions, I give him very basic answers.
Fast forward a few month later, I climbed into the *** of a kid we hired about sitting around when we had things to do. Now, this wasn't the 1st or even the 6th time I had said something to him.
The snowflake got "him feelings hurt" and complained to the Menace.
Next day the menace come's out with a write up sheet and wants to write me up. Now I have already been told that I don't work for this guy, so I blow him off.
The next week he made a comment about the reason I was late coming in to work. I stopped at a Kroger and I bought 6 cases of bottled water for my people, in fact I had been doing that all year. My guys knew I would be late and they knew why. Again, the menace tries to write me up, again I blow him off. This time he pissed me off when he made a comment about my buying bottled water. I told him not to worry, I would never do it again. Now this water was available to everyone in the dealership, not just the parts guys. The standing rule was when the last case went into the fridge, let me know. This time when I was told I said go tell the "menace" he's covering it from now on.
The next day I get called into a meeting and told I was too expensive and that I was being laid off.
I've never in my life been laid off or fired from a job. I felt as low as I could.
I put feelers out and looked around. Got a lot of "thanks, but we're just not doing anything right now."
After a few weeks, I decided that I needed a plan. So I looked into going back to school. I had started a education degree several years back and decided I would like to finish that up.
I get enrolled in school and I will start in a couple of weeks. I'm currently out around $4K in tuition and books.
I know, I'm long winded but here's the where I'm seeking another opinion.
Yesterday, out of the blue, I'm called by the parts manager of a big mopar dealer. Would I come talk to him.
Okay, I'm curious, so I go today and have a chat. They had a guy retire and they tought they could do without him, but that doesn't seem to be the case. He's getting mostly people that have parts experience from places like Autozone applying. I tell him of my plans but I'm willing to work part time. He actually seemed willing to consider that, as I would be cheaper and I could cover at peak times. He says he's going to run it by his boss and let me know.
I get home, about an hour later a buddy of mine calls me. The dealership he works at (Mopar) needs a counterman too. Their guy was in a serious car accident and he's been out for a month already, they need help. My buddy was standing next to the parts mgr while on the phone, I mention the fact I was planing on going to school. They want me to come in and talk tomorrow anyway.
So, what would you do? Here some facts I need to consider:
1.) I can't get most of my money back for school, and I really want to finish my degree.
2.) I'm collecting a small disability pension from a past job due to my heart condition.
3.) I'm collecting unemployment but that will end this March.
4.) I wouldn't mind going back to being a counterman, less headaches.
5.) I filed for SSD, but was turned down with them acknowledging I have some serious health issues. I did submit an appeal. I can work, but it's difficult sometimes and I have a lot of doctor appts.
6.) I'm going to need to bring in some additional income after March.
7.) I currently have no idea what kind of $ will be offered.

If either of these two opportunity's can't or won't work with my school schedule, would you say to hell with it? Forget school and go to work or go ahead and get your butt in school?
I'm hoping that the 2nd place will work with me, I have several past co-workers there and it's a lot closer. But I have to do something. I can't go with out some income.
I'm not sure how I need to react when I have this sit down, if this isn't something they are willing to consider should I just throw my other plans to the wind.
Any comments, advice will be welcome.
 
If the 1st offer will do part time around your school schedule, sounds like a win-win. You get some income doing what you know, and get to go to school to finish that degree. The 2nd possible offer sounds temporary at best - their guy was in a car wreck, out for a month. He'll be coming back to work to displace you sooner or later and they may or may not work around your school sched.
It also sounds like you need to get the corporate guys out to see what is going on at the place that laid you off - you know, the guys that came out to see what the big turn around was when you took over. Get them to out some corporate screws to the owner to make it right by you.
 
Work on the degree, even if it's just one night class a semester. If you can work part-time while doing that, even better.
 
I would talk to both places to get a "feel" for the job and also talk money. This could also be an opportunity to see if they work around your schedule or what else they can do

It is easier to turn down a job than to find one

Talking to both job opportunities gives you great information but it is also gives you a chances to decide what you want to do. Or maybe these are both good or both bad. Only way to know is to talk

Than you can make an educated and informed decision (no kicking yourself afterwards)
 
I wouldn't back off on the SSD. Take a look at your last statement. If it is like mine used to read. Disability today will be close to double what regular SS is. If it gets approved it will stay at that dollar amount when regular retirement starts. You are collecting OPM disability, correct? If so how long were you employed under FERS prior to starting Disability?
 

Weigh the positive and negative of all situations. Which sounds like what others have been doing without coming right out and saying that. The good thing for you is you have options. You have time, not a lot, but some time. You're doing the right thing here by thinking it through. When the time comes, be confident you made the right choice AT THAT TIME! Good luck, it sounds like you're doing it the right way.
 
I wouldn't back off on the SSD. Take a look at your last statement. If it is like mine used to read. Disability today will be close to double what regular SS is. If it gets approved it will stay at that dollar amount when regular retirement starts. You are collecting OPM disability, correct? If so how long were you employed under FERS prior to starting Disability?
I've been on OPM disability since Feb 2012. I started on FERS 2007. I was told that SSD would be automatic since I was on OPM, but so far that doesn't seem to be the case.
I didn't want to take the disability retirement to begin with. But I have brady cardia and there is no guarantee I wouldn't pass out again while operating an LLV, and the PO's rules about pay, I was forced into it.
Unless you know something I don't or I'm filing wrong. I'll listen to anything you got to say. Hell, tell me more! I don't know what I don't know!
Deep down, I want to go to school, but I don't want to lose everything I have to do it. I really don't mind to work, and I'm fine with going to work, but I have 4 Dr appts just in Jan.
 
Myself : If capable of working,I take the job... Nothing beats ,income...... I like the idea of working around school ,with scheduling. If you know parts jobs,not too likely...
 
It sucks about your cardiac issues. Been there myself. My career as an EMT ended, and all the time I spent in school to become a paramedic was wasted when I had a syncopal episode (loss of consciousness) while driving the ambulance to a call. Doctors put me on beta blockers, which suck the turds out of a politician's ***, they are that bad. I went to school to be a machinist, and a welder, then ended up getting a job making military spy drones out of carbon fiber, not one bit of welding or machining involved. Don't sweat if the degree doesn't get you in the field you planned for. I love my job, and what I do helps keep our guys (and our goat-herder allies' guys) out there on the sharp end of the stick alive.
 
My two questions were how old are you and how sick are you.
I see you have given information relative to the second.
If you can't get the 4K back and you can get a degree I would suggest going ahead with that.
Even though a college degree in "the wrong thing" doesn't guarantee employment it's said that a college degree shows commitment.
But then again, I don't understand how 9.99 is less than ten dollars.
Your line of work sounds very political and unstable. I would suggest a union, but it would get flamed.
No matter how efficient and good worker you are, that line of work probably has a limited potential and future.
I hate to say it, and don' t mean to insult anyone, but to me ASE certification and relative quick car courses don't really classify as highly skilled work. And those are just minimums. (Sort of like a doctor. Bottom of the class and still a doctor).
Your still working at a car dealership, no matter how "good" you are.
You probably know that the way to look at a job is : "Am I easily replaced"?
How many other people could do my job right now with a little training. Sure they may not last but it's done.
My free advice and worth what you paid for it.
There are lawyers that will help you navigate getting SS disability for a percentage.
 
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Go forward with the education and teaching certificate. Unless you can make an employment deal with the dealer principle there will always be too many layers if middle managers in the way to make your life miserable. I will not take my vehicles to any dealership as their rate of turnover rivals fast food and you are always getting the "new" guy. (not that teaching is any panacea) From the information I read, the ideal situation would be to stay in school, work the parts job part time to match your schedule for the supplemental income. Can't speak to the health issues, that is the joker in the deck isn't it? You will make the right decision, good luck to you!
 
Well, today I went to talk to the folks. I laid it all out on the line. I told them that I was interested, but for this semester, I'm going to school and this is what my schedule is.
I was told that they were interested in me and they may be able to work around my schedule.
I'm 47, and unfortunately, I seem to stay chronically ill.
Desert Rat is right, the way dealership turn over has been as of late, I think I'd like to have something to fall back on.
On my way back, the 1st place called and wants to talk to me again, bring my class schedule.
So, to be continued..........
 
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Well, today I went to talk to the folks. I laid it all out on the line. I told them that I was interested, but for this semester, I'm going to school and this is what my schedule is.
I was told that they were interested in me and they may be able to work around my schedule.
I'm 47, and unfortunately, I seem to stay chronically ill.
Desert Rat is right, the way dealership turn over has been as of late, I think I'd like to have something to fall back on.
On my way back, the 1st place called and wants to talk to me again, bring my class schedule.
So, to be continued..........

What you did is almost exactly what I was going to suggest.:D
(Just be honest about what you want and take what sounds best for you and your health)
If you can go back to work at a counter AND go to school, do it.
I hope that degree is in something you'll be able to use, when your health ends up forcing you to.
 
My one and only question is:

What is the area of the degree you are pursuing and will does it have employment potential? I am 30 and I have seen it way too many times where someone goes to school thinking they can get a good job, when in reality, their degree is "business" or "general studies" to me that don't mean squat. They end up waitressing or bar tending because they can't get hired. OR they end up going back to school for something else and the debt just piles on.

So I would take the job and work, unless you are confident that the degree will yield higher income and a better overall lifesytle in the end.
 
I think you're doing the right thing. IF you go back to work, have them work with you for school at least for the first semester.
It sounds like you're looking at an education degree. IF you feel you would REALLY enjoy working as a teacher, then I suggest working and completing the degree at the same time. If you have ANY reservations about a career in teaching, then finish the first semester so you feel like you didn't waste your money, then stick with work.

I'll tell you my story with degrees. I finished a B.S. in Management while I was in the Air Force. Then after I retired, I worked and went to school at night to get an MBA. Then after being laid off about 3 years later, I went back to school to get a Masters in Human Resource Management. NONE of it helped me get a job. I loved going to school and I learned a TON, but it has always been personal connections and networking that helped me get a job. I'm 53 and I'll be starting my (hopefully) last career in February!! Still not related to my degrees although they did mention my broad education and experience during interviews.

Tough decision for sure, but it sounds like you have a plan. I commend you for telling them about school and that is something you won't negotiate. I think they're respect you for that!
 
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