Elmo65
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I know that they have used LS motors that are converted and all you do is put them in the car, hook up a fuel line, and a battery. Does anybody convert a 5.7 or a 6.2 to this point?
Stupid question……….
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If it was that easy and cheap with the Gen 3 hemi more guys would be doing it. I have an 05 Ram and it never has failed me with the 5.7. I would love to put one in but cost is holding me back. I have a 74 Duster, but it'll have a 408 stroker come this spring.
Simple math. There's more Chevy guys so they get more stuff and a lot cheaper.
Yunick13
3 Time FABO NASCAR champ 2023 FABO NHRA champ
This would be a good business venture for you if you could get it to a price point the average Moparite could afford.
Professor Fate
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No LS goes in that easily.
LS and Hemi both need engine management systems wired in, since neither has a distributor. Both require aftermarket headers, oil pans and motor mounts. Neither has a provision for a mechanical fuel pump, so fuel system mods are mandatory in both cases. I don't think one is technically any "easier" than the other.
But like Rusty said, the Chebbys are more plentiful, so their swap systems and parts are likewise more plentiful, and somewhat cheaper by default.
Elmo65
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I know the transmissions and fuel systems and mounts and suspension mods are required too. Burt as far as the engine goes, all you have to do is turn the key and it’s running right there in your car. The rest of the stuff I can do. The engine part is something I could not do. Now if I win the lottery, I might find a bunch of people who know how to do this and open my own shop, but that’s a big if. As for right now I’m retired living on a pension. I just wonder why no one is doing it.
Professor Fate
Push the button, Max...
And that is my point- both engines require electronic management/ignition control systems wired in, even if carbureted; since neither uses a distributor. LS is not a "drop in and turn the key" situation, that's just a Bowtie fanboy fallacy.
Both require the same type of mods to work in a classic car, the difference is since the Chevies are more common the parts to do so are more readily available and therefore cheaper, too.
Au contraire. There are MANY Gen 3 Hemi swaps out there, there is even a sub-forum for them here on this site.
Heck, Holley even offers dedicated swap components to put a Gen 3 hemi into Chev/GMC C-series pickups (as well as other vehicles)... they wouldn't be marketing that if there was "nobody doing it".
Not to mention all the other vendors making parts to support the hemi swap market.
Yeah. You’re right
With a LS all you have to do is set it down in the engine bay and turn the key
Way yonder more to it than that !
The Chevy will be just as much trouble as a Mopar engine
And it’s a Chevy to boot !
Nothing is easy when it comes to major changes like these
I like chevys just fine
But I’ll keep a Mopar all Mopar
It’s the principle of it I guess
Tommy
No engine swap is that simple....... there is no magic engine transplant. Apart from when someone has one set up on a crate for sale. For instance computer would need to mount somewhere so you will still have a loom not like it can be bolted to top of the engine. Even with this magic you talk of everything would have to be cut to length depending on your car and situation so again its basically an engine, loom and engine management.
As for the key its going to be different on every car depending on their ignition and amount of electronics required in the car.
You sound like you are seeing a Holley terminator system thats been hooked up, thats about as easy as it gets, has its own fuse board and you wire it into your ignition. The holley system worth a few grand on its own.
However none of this solves the fuel system, fitting the engine with all the custom items and headers, brake upgrades.
I am currently fitting a 6.4 to my duster, you need two things....... money and time there is no cheap way. And the cheaper options usually involve more time
As for the key its going to be different on every car depending on their ignition and amount of electronics required in the car.
You sound like you are seeing a Holley terminator system thats been hooked up, thats about as easy as it gets, has its own fuse board and you wire it into your ignition. The holley system worth a few grand on its own.
However none of this solves the fuel system, fitting the engine with all the custom items and headers, brake upgrades.
I am currently fitting a 6.4 to my duster, you need two things....... money and time there is no cheap way. And the cheaper options usually involve more time
DionR
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Blueprint sells a fully built and tuned 426 that comes with the controller. In theory, outside of headers, trans, fuel system and motor mounts, it should be like a 4 wire hook up to make it run. Does that fit the criteria?
Chrysler Hemi Compatible 426 c.i. Pro Series Engine - 610 Horsepower - Base Dressed - Fuel Injected
DionR
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Beyond that, I would guess you are looking for a carb conversion. But as mentioned above, that still needs a computer to run the ignition so it will have the same wiring hook up as the BP engine above. At least a power, ground, key and maybe a start signal. But as far as I know, no one offers a crate motor Hemi with a carb. There are carb intakes for the G3, and a couple of options for spark control, but you would have to roll your own as far as I am aware.
DionR
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I didn't get the impression he wanted an LS, only a comparable option for swapping a G3 in.
Elmo65
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That is exactly what I wanted to know.
Why does no one make the G3 in a comparable package?
Professor Fate
Push the button, Max...
^^^^
That’s what I mean,,,,,LS is not the only option in town .
But most people have been indoctrinated into this logic .
Mopar is always the best option in my book .
Tommy
That’s what I mean,,,,,LS is not the only option in town .
But most people have been indoctrinated into this logic .
Mopar is always the best option in my book .
Tommy
toplscuda
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The most cost effective stand alone ignition that I know of is available through Blackbird Performance.
Blackbird Performance Afterburner Ignition System
Blackbird Performance Afterburner Ignition System
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