This Carb spacer didn’t work for me, but might for you

[Slantsix64]

Slant Six One Barrel Phenolic Carb Spacer | eBay

Doesn’t have the hole for the PCV on the intake, even if you make the hole the carburetor bolts will need to be longer. But the passenger side bolt will rub on the carb body of a Holley 1 barrel. This was on my 72 valiant with stock 1 barrel.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Slant Six One Barrel Phenolic Carb Spacer | eBay

Doesn’t have the hole for the PCV on the intake, even if you make the hole the carburetor bolts will need to be longer. But guess what the passenger side bolt will rub on the carb body of a Holley 1 barrel. This was on my 72 valiant with stock 1 barrel.

Wasted my morning, now I gotta buy another base gasket. Hopefully can save you guys a headache

Did you let Matt know? He'd do everything in his power to make you happy. In the end, you used it for the wrong application. Not all slants have that hole. I would have thought you would have contacted a good member rather than make a ***** thread. Although he has told me several times he wants feedback good or bad. @Badvert65 There I tagged him for you. I'm sure he'll address it.

 

[Killer6]

Slant Six One Barrel Phenolic Carb Spacer | eBay

Doesn’t have the hole for the PCV on the intake, even if you make the hole the carburetor bolts will need to be longer. But guess what the passenger side bolt will rub on the carb body of a Holley 1 barrel. This was on my 72 valiant with stock 1 barrel.

Wasted my morning, now I gotta buy another base gasket. Hopefully can save you guys a headache

So how exactly does using longer capscrews all of a sudden create this "rubbing" situation? Is it because the screws You acquired have too large a head? You can't figure out how to hold the carb up and start the screw & work it down in before setting the carb on the gasket??
Like RRR, You could've reached out to Matt, & not slammed a perfectly good product.
It is clearly pictured on His site sans said hole, which tells Me You weren't aware it needed one for Your app., that's fine.....but it's not Matt's fault....

 

[Slantsix64]

Did you let Matt know? He'd do everything in his power to make you happy. In the end, you used it for the wrong application. Not all slants have that hole. I would have thought you would have contacted a good member rather than make a ***** thread. Although he has told me several times he wants feedback good or bad. @Badvert65 There I tagged him for you. I'm sure he'll address it.

Who’s bitchin? Just letting people know, that spacer will not work on any slant six 1 barrel intake that has that extra hole in the intake??? The ad should of said works on specific style of intakes on slant six. Not that it works on all applications.

The only intake I have ever had that didn’t have that hole was off a 80s truck with a totally different style carburetor.

 

[MOPAROFFICIAL]

Everyone can understand there's a little bit of disappointment when something doesn't work out. Expressing that disappointment doesn't necessarily mean it's bitching.

 

[Slantsix64]

So how exactly does using longer capscrews all of a sudden create this "rubbing" situation? Is it because the screws You acquired have too large a head? You can't figure out how to hold the carb up and start the screw & work it down in before setting the carb on the gasket??
Like RRR, You could've reached out to Matt, & not slammed a perfectly good product.
It is clearly pictured on His site sans said hole, which tells Me You weren't aware it needed one for Your app., that's fine.....but it's not Matt's fault....

The issue is the longer screw that is needed for that taller spacer will rub on the Holley 1920 carb body I’m not going to grind down my Holleys carb body.

It’s the same screw just a bit longer, the only application this adapter would work on is a specific carburetor which has the clearance, and a specific intake.

 

[67Dart273]

WITHOUT PHOTOS THIS THREAD IS................................

 

[Killer6]

Sorry buddy that’s not the issue the longer screw that is needed for that taller spacer will rub on the Holley 1920 carb body I’m not going to grind down my Holleys carb body.

It’s the same screw just a bit longer, the only application this adapter would work on is a specific carburetor which has the clearance, and a specific intake.

There are (2) basic 1920 throttle body mounting thickness', early .450" & later .625", the extra thickness does squeeze you for angling the bolt in.
1)A slight angle chamfer in the top/bottom of the bolt hole in the base can give enough room to sneak it past.
2)A reduced head capscrew or an Allen capscrew will give You room.
3)A stud & nut eliminates that issue completely.
There are slight variations in vacuum pass-thru' holes, & it is best to drill yours to match the exact component You are working with.
Good luck with the Summer cruising....
Jim K6

 

[Slantsix64]

There are (2) basic 1920 throttle body mounting thickness', early .450" & later .625", the extra thickness does squeeze you for angling the bolt in.
1)A slight angle chamfer in the top/bottom of the bolt hole in the base can give enough room to sneak it past.
2)A reduced head capscrew or an Allen capscrew will give You room.
3)A stud & nut eliminates that issue completely.
There are slight variations in vacuum pass-thru' holes, & it is best to drill yours to match the exact component You are working with.
Good luck with the Summer cruising....
Jim K6

So we both agree that in the ebay ad it should say, some modifications might be needed.

1) you might need to angle chamfer your stock factory Holley Carb.

2)you might need to purchase a Allen cap style screw, or special bolt, or convert your intake to have purchase studs to bolt on your carburetor.

3) you might need to drill through the spacer and gaskets supplied.

It shouldn’t say it will work on all slant six models

To be specific it will not work on any 1963-72 slant six abodies with out modifications.

This is a 1980s truck style carb spacer which the intake has no provisions for the pcv.

 

[Oldmanmopar]

Adding a carb spacer to anything there will always be some hurdles to cross. Get longer studs and hook the PCV up to and intake port

 

[Badvert65]

I gave him a total refund and told him to keep the spacer as I couldn't sell it after he modified it. For the record, I was never contacted about any issues with the spacer. Just a message from ebay that a return/refund was requested. I have fit this specifically on a 65 slant six, a 73 slant six, a 74 slant six, and a 79 slant six (all cars). I have also tested it on a 72 truck slant six, an 83 truck slant six and an 86 truck slant six. Never had any issues, FYI they all had stud mounts for the carbs. If ANYONE ever has issues with ANY of the things I sell, I am happy to make things right. I don't mind feedback to improve things. Communication is the key here, not assuming you were purposedly misled and dude...ditch the victim mentality.
I am only trying to help my Mopar brethren, and those of us that are fans on the venerable slant six.
Slant on my brothers.

 

[slantsixdan]

Slant Six One Barrel Phenolic Carb Spacer | eBay

Doesn’t have the hole for the PCV on the intake,

It's configured for '73-up stock Slant-6 carburetors. It's not compatible with '72-down items. The description is misleading:

"Together, the spacer and gaskets are ½ inch thick. This keeps clearance and linkage interference to a minimum"

That's thicker than even the thickest factory carb base gasket. At a bare minimum it's going to require readjusting the accelerator cable and the automatic trans kickdown linkage, which may not have enough adjustment range to compensate. It will definitely cause binding in a pre-'67 rod-type throttle linkage setup. It could also easily cause hood clearance issues (to the air cleaner) on some models.

"Works with any factory slant six one barrel carburetor such as the Carter BBS, Holley 1920, or Holley 1945."

This is not correct. There are no BBSs that will work correctly with this base gasket setup, not even the '73-'74 Dodge truck ones. This base gasket setup will work with 1973 Holley 1920s, but only '73 items.

It would not be impossible (or even difficult) to configure a spacer like this to avoid all height problems and be compatible with '61-up intakes and carburetors ('60 setups would pose an issue of their own, but there aren't many of those out there). With or without that effort put into the product, the seller ought to be more accurate with his eBay descriptions.

That said, studs and (Nylock) nuts with flatwashers are a much, much better way than hex bolts to hold the carburetor to the intake.

 

[slantsixdan]

Not all slants have that hole.

…but most of them do. The first year ('60) and the last few years ('84ish to '87) don't.

 

[Slantsix64]

It's configured for '73-up stock Slant-6 carburetors. It's not compatible with '72-down items. The description is misleading:

"Together, the spacer and gaskets are ½ inch thick. This keeps clearance and linkage interference to a minimum"

That's thicker than even the thickest factory carb base gasket. At a bare minimum it's going to require readjusting the accelerator cable and the automatic trans kickdown linkage, which may not have enough adjustment range to compensate. It will definitely cause binding in a pre-'67 rod-type throttle linkage setup. It could also easily cause hood clearance issues (to the air cleaner) on some models.

"Works with any factory slant six one barrel carburetor such as the Carter BBS, Holley 1920, or Holley 1945."

This is not correct. There are no BBSs that will work correctly with this base gasket setup, not even the '73-'74 Dodge truck ones. This base gasket setup will work with 1973 Holley 1920s, but only '73 items.

It would not be impossible (or even difficult) to configure a spacer like this to avoid all height problems and be compatible with '61-up intakes and carburetors ('60 setups would pose an issue of their own, but there aren't many of those out there). With or without that effort put into the product, the seller ought to be more accurate with his eBay descriptions.

That said, studs and (Nylock) nuts with flatwashers are a much, much better way than hex bolts to hold the carburetor to the intake.

Exactly what I’m saying, but I guess it’s better not to go against the herd.

And @Badvert65 i am not playing the victim, I’m giving my personal experience. You said you like feedback and here you go.

 

[Killer6]

So we both agree that in the ebay ad it should say, some modifications might be needed.

1) you might need to angle chamfer your stock factory Holley Carb.

2)you might need to purchase a Allen cap style screw, or special bolt, or convert your intake to have purchase studs to bolt on your carburetor.

3) you might need to drill through the spacer and gaskets supplied.

It shouldn’t say it will work on all slant six models

To be specific it will not work on any 1963-72 slant six abodies with out modifications.

This is a 1980s truck style carb spacer which the intake has no provisions for the pcv.

Just because you guys are buddies on this form doesn’t mean your right. This thing didn’t work, so either fix it or fix your description.

I agree, for the unaware/unprepared, the description should point out it can fit the years listed w/mods needed up to '72. You were expecting to take 2 screws out, scrape the gasket off, & put it together.....You didn't look up an OE gasket for Your car ahead of time, because You took "it fits all" & figured they're all the same. The part is clearly & accurately pictured, had You known, You'd have realized it was going to need mods.

I disagree with the Title of this thread, it is not a waste of time, even having to make mods. This is an easily surmountable issue, and having a thicker heat isolating spacer is worth doing whatever it takes, adjusments etc.

I guess I'm just used to doing whatever it takes, & moving on, it's no biggie.........

As far sticking up as 'buddies', I don't believe I've spoken to Matt one time, & may have posted in a common thread a few times in the 10yrs. I've belonged to FABO & the Slant Six Forum.......soooo don't go there Sport. My opinions & comments are the way it is, and Mine.

 

[Johnny Dart]

No good deed goes unpunished.
Its called hot rodding.
If you can't figure out how to bolt down a 1bbl carburetor,
you are in the wrong field.

 

[Slantsix64]

Hey guys honestly I was having a **** day yesterday from start to finish, and I do apologize to @Badvert65 @Killer6 @RustyRatRod for being a lame duck. I honestly did not know the eBay seller (Matt) was a member on here. Was trying to let the slants know my experience.

That being said I respect my elders always,
and @Johnny Dart I’ll take that lol.

 

[Killer6]

Hey guys honestly I was having a **** day yesterday from start to finish, and I do apologize to @Badvert65 @Killer6 @RustyRatRod for being a lame duck. I honestly did not know the eBay seller (Matt) was a member on here. Was trying to let the slants know my experience.

That being said I respect my elders always,
and @Johnny Dart I’ll take that lol.

It's all good, ....I've had moments where something that seemed like it would've been easy put a turd in My pool, after just killing a bunch of real problems all day at work & hoping for just a little cooperation, & it sets Me off for a spell....lol.

 

[Charrlie_S]

Just a thought from me. Many of the people on this site that have parts available (both new and used) describe them to the best of thier ability. Most are hobyests, and donot/cannot know every application. Most are willing to make good on a mistake, and if making the part, make an adjustment in either the part or description. How many of the large companies do you know that will do that

 

[Badvert65]

No worries to anyone. The good news is that I will be working on an improved design for the one barrel spacer. I hope to get input from Slant Six Dan and others. I do try to make a good product, but I apparently do not know a lot of the Slant Six nuances (I blame my big block fetish). Thanks for prompting the discussion Slantsix64, and thanks for all the input positive and negative, something good will be the result.

 

[slantsixdan]

I hope to get input from Slant Six Dan

PMs sent; did you see them?

 

[Dave999]

allways a bit of fun with aftermarket parts

Try fitting 3 x 2 barrel webers to a Redline manifold that has the centre carb mounting skewed to the left by 2 degrees. the manifold cost is $999 Australian dollars, you'd think they would get it right....

but no. all of them are like that for no good reason

Hence

A bolt with a smaller head..... that will do it ...

Dave

 

[timk225]

Why would someone be putting a carb spacer on a 1920 in the first place? It's not going to run any better. It is still a big restriction.

 

[slantsixdan]

Why would someone be putting a carb spacer on a 1920 in the first place? It's not going to run any better. It is still a big restriction.

You're missing the point completely. The idea is to keep the carb cooler to help with hot-engine starting and driveability.

 

[67Dart273]

allways a bit of fun with aftermarket parts

Try fitting 3 x 2 barrel webers to a Redline manifold that has the centre carb mounting skewed to the left by 2 degrees. the manifold cost is $999 Australian dollars, you'd think they would get it right....

but no. all of them are like that for no good reason

Hence

A bolt with a smaller head..... that will do it ...

Dave

Were they trying to level the carbs? Some V engine manifold carb bases are tilted