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I need some B3 racing stickers... To stick on my Mr gasket valve covers....I just got my engine back from B3, has Trick Flow heads. Now I have to finish the car for itView attachment 1715611579
I need some B3 racing stickers... To stick on my Mr gasket valve covers....I just got my engine back from B3, has Trick Flow heads. Now I have to finish the car for itView attachment 1715611579
This looks like a good test to me.Aren't those trickflows basically untested?......
I realized when I swapped mine over from the CNC speedmaster heads to the trickflows, I didn't change anything but the head gasket thickness to keep the compression the same. Same everything else, even same tires.
11.77@112 - Speedmaster cnc heads @ 6800ft da
[email protected] - trickflow heads @ 7300ft da
I agree but you read on further or where he had bigger headers for the trickflows...This looks like a good test to me.
Hey Mike I finally got my 360 magnum to the track with the trickflows I bought off you.Yes, that is the one. Do you want to tell them, Pat, or should I?
what would not be a “ baby lift” cam?
It may hurt sometimes, but you always speak the truth.I would think if you want to see benefits cost and performance wise I would want to see lift over .600 minimum as we have to keep in mind how much lift we lose. But hey it’s your money.
I would think if you want to see benefits cost and performance wise I would want to see lift over .600 minimum as we have to keep in mind how much lift we lose. But hey it’s your money.
I was just talking about his (@lead69) particular set...
But I do agree... But since these are supposed to be Street heads how wild should the cam be...
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I would love to have this 100.00 investment back. It’s the cam that ran 6.54 in my sons stock crank 360 and broke a Comp Cams roller lifter
Not quite apples to apples, but close.... My Barracuda has a very similar setup but with ported Edelbrocks:have posted this on here before, but have a buddy with a pretty typical Bracket type Duster. Somewhere between 3000-3100 including driver.
Does have a 727. 264-268 Hughes solid cam, 630 Lift. 12+ compression
950. Has tried both excellerator and Victor. 8 inch vert,big tube headers, etc
Its been a best of 10.55 thus far at 126 ish.
I would expect a well done eddie head to run like that, possibly even a hair better.
600-630 lbs. Of open pressure...??..View attachment 1715612144
I would love to have this 100.00 investment back. It’s the cam that ran 6.54 in my sons stock crank 360 and broke a lifter
seems like a HUGE jump to gain 6 tenths from a CNC head to the Trick Flows.
Thats probably 80 horsepower, or more. Thats tons.
I personally have yet to see any more than pretty much a push from ported eddies. Not doubting your results, but they seem an outlier.
That means that a guy like Flyfish should expect to run 9.70’s if he took his eddies off and put trick flows on...
Unless the CNC job on those knockoff heads was extremely lacking
So I assume trickflows would be about a 10K investment at this point...Not quite apples to apples, but close.... My Barracuda has a very similar setup but with ported Edelbrocks:
3250lbs, 727, same cam (Hughes 264-268), 13:1 compression
750carb, Victor intake, 8" converter, 1 3/4 headers.
Best of 10.19 @ 130.5mph
I have said this before and truly believe it to be the best option and nearly the only route if, IF!, you are intending to build a street beast of an engine or stouter....I was just talking about his (@lead69) particular set...
But I do agree... But since these are supposed to be Street heads how wild should the cam be...
600-630 lbs. Of open pressure...??..
I was being facetious....there is no way trickflows would make my car much (if any) faster....at least not that much.So I assume trickflows would be about a 10K investment at this point...
Assuming you get your half second bump to 9.69... now you're consistently below 10 seconds and of course your recertification of everything every two years roll cage etc.... Added stress to everything..
I couldn't afford to race at the mid 11 second level let alone below 10 seconds...
I’m my eyes they have been basically tested improperly by several running “baby lift” cams.
No! Not at all.So I assume trickflows would be about a 10K investment at this point...
Yes you can! It just has to be the plan first, not second, as in... “12’s were great, I’m going for 11’s now!”I couldn't afford to race at the mid 11 second level let alone below 10 seconds...
Oh I didn't mean to imply that you we're saying that at all. And I'm pretty sure we're on the same page with all that. This entire conversation that everybody is having is not taking into consideration combination. I don't think as a matter of fact I know no one has the same exact combination. Everybody has a different cam different heads different compression different stroke intake exhaust you name it... To say one products going to do something phenomenal across-the-board with standing nitrous LOL is a forever conversation...I was being facetious....there is no way trickflows would make my car much (if any) faster....at least not that much.
You can tell them Mike, I don't have any secrets.Yes, that is the one. Do you want to tell them, Pat, or should I?
Has anyone actually just swapped to these heads without changing the rest of the setup (cams, intakes, etc,etc) and posted their findings, on any forum or shared amongst engine builders/ racers? Swapping from any oem head including those modified up to a certain point (porting and $$ spent) would obviously see varying degrees of impressive results one would think, only to diminish to the point of being negligible when compared to the other similar ootb aftermarket heads one may be swapping from. In the “jury is still out “ or “not enough evidence” phase more likely?
Ok, first, I am more interested in seeing the numbers at the track than what the dyno had to say. A dynos accuracy is almost always questionable.You can tell them Mike, I don't have any secrets.
I guess I can say I did. Now mine is not that fast. But the 360 magnum I have came out of my friends gutted and I mean gutted 94 extended cab dakota. I think he got it down to 2900/3000 pounds with him in it. He ran a best of 7.16 at 96 mph with it. He never raced 1/4 mile. It had home ported EQ heads on it.
So when u bought the engine off him I put it in my 96 short bed dakota. I had a rocker arm come loose on the EQ heads and mess up a valve stem. So rather than get my EQ heads fixed, I just bought a set of trickflow heads,PRW roller rocker arms and mikes B3 rocker arm kit. I am guessing my 96 weighed 3400/3500 pounds with me in it. Well any way with everything the same except the switch from EQ heads to the trickflow heads. So far my dakota has ran a 7.15 at 95.56 and a 11.23 at 115 in the 1/4. All passes were made with 93 pump gas. Do you guys think my MPH in the 1/4 is low? To me i think it is. But I think my torque converter is off. It wasn't built to my engine, came with the 904 transmission i bought. Oops forgot to add the engine details.
Stock bore 2000 360 magnum block.
I think the math showes the compression at 11.1
KB107 pistions.
Stock crank and rods.
Comp 305. 550 lift sold cam
PRW 1.6 Roller rockers
Smith Brothers 3/8 push rods.
TRICK FLOW HEADS
Ported INDY CYLINDER HEAD single plane intake.
800 DP billet holley carb
Full length Hooker 1-5/8 headers
Turbo action built 904 transmission
Refreshed coan 8 inch 5600 stall converter.
4.30 gears
28x9x15 slicks.
I think my dakota should be faster than what it is now. Because I havent got to do any suspension or carb tuning yet. Woukd like to hear your opinions on my build. Next year I am all ready wanting to build a 400+ stroker small block with compression 13.1 and a bigger solid cam or solid roller.