Icetech
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wasn't that the black anodized one for the offshore racer?
Unity Motorsports Doing their 318 Project!
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TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
Yes with green headers
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
Nick is NOT a tuner. Keep saying that in your head when watching his junk. Nick is not a tuner, he don’t check plugs, he don’t use a timing light, he has no idea how to unfuck a “carbiater”. We should make it a country song.
Dartswinger70
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LOL! Funny thing is that's the classic basic recipe for a 318... an Edelbrock intake, 4 barrel ,cam and headers...maybe you'll throw on some closed chamber heads if the wallet is deep enough... most of us played around like that then hunted down a 340 or 360, B body guys ran 383 etc. The problem I see is Andy isnt a Mopar guy and bought into Tonys BS,as did Vizard. Once they actually looked inti what they had in that 70s 318 Tony dropped off it was "whoa back to the drawing board..." Vizard figured he can do tricks that work on a Chevy and found it its not worth it. This brings us to where we are today and the thing is alot of us already knew it.
Icetech
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Speaking of 318's how's your coming along ?
Icetech
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It's not.. i haven't touched it since november, starting to get nice out though and will get back at it. Last weekend i pulled a trim piece to try to fix, finding a replacement is not easy.. and hammered a nasty little dent out. Was gonna weld up my dist plate but that will be the next thing.. it's pretty much drivable though
Plus his show is like watching paint dry, I just skip to the dyno results with Nick.
Icetech
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I need to get some miles on it though to make sure if i wanna keep it and dump more money in.. there is a guy named Terry Brighton up in ontario that does small block mopar strokers, gonna talk to him bout doing a shortblock for me..
I'm just about to start getting my car ready for the summer, now the weather is getting tolerable
Icetech
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yeah, it's kinda like waking up again.. I even put a heater in the garage this year, just had no motivation to go out there.. Also gonna rub out the roof/hood soon too. Did the decklid/quarters at the end of the year and the old paint came back really goodI'm just about to start getting my car ready for the summer, now the weather is getting tolerable
Your gonna have a nice ride when done, I’m more invested with the outcome of your TF headed 318 then DV’s but like you said I’m interested in the outcome of all built 318’s even DV’s if it ever makes it to the dyno.everything from bout 10" up is original paint.. trying to save it, has scratches and stuff and you can see burn through.. but i like that it's the old stuff still
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Icetech
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Main thing for me is local, the guy in ontario uses a machine shop near me
I have put motors together before but i am being lazy.. plus i have been looking for a 360 block for a long time now.. guys want more for a swamp 360 than a running 440 here, it's insane. There is a roller 318 block near me right now for $30.. i might just get it
TT5.9mag
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You should contact @NC Engine BuilderMain thing for me is local, the guy in ontario uses a machine shop near me
Icetech
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i want to get the car sorted before i commit to anything.. so i'm not in a hurry and don't want to waste anyones time
RAMM is in Ontario, don't if he's close to you though.i want to get the car sorted before i commit to anything.. so i'm not in a hurry and don't want to waste anyones time
While I like the premise of building a 318 I don’t get sticking with a 2 barrel and little valves . You will probably have to buy new valves so why not go a little bigger ? And stock 4bbl intakes are cheap .
Plus ..all that custom work costs far more than buying parts and very few people are capable of doing it.
Should have ported the heads with a little larger valves , used stock crank , ported a TQ factory intake and decked heads / block for compression.
Then supertune the timing and an old Thermoquad .
Plus ..all that custom work costs far more than buying parts and very few people are capable of doing it.
Should have ported the heads with a little larger valves , used stock crank , ported a TQ factory intake and decked heads / block for compression.
Then supertune the timing and an old Thermoquad .
67FormulaS_273HiPo_4spd
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I like Uncle Tony and tune in to most of his stuff when I can. I can see how he would annoy some people though, I get it, but I like his focus on working with what you have, keeping stuff within the era it was originally done and passing on his experience to the next generation. I’m definitely not the next generation, being in my late 50’s and working on cars since I was a kid. But what I do like more than anything, is making ‘junk’ run great!
I’ve had and still have 340’s and stroker small blocks that run hard, these are always great and never go out of favour. But there’s something so cool about putting some time & effort into a 273, 318, 360 and making ‘em sing. I’m able to port cylinder heads, not great, but they seem to work. I have a decent understanding of camshaft specs and what seems to work with various static compression ratios. Like most here, I understand the importance of dynamic compression and the closing point of the intake valve etc. It’s all about the intended use and overall combo, that either makes the thing shine or suck.
Some of the cars that UTG works on are a little Rattier than I would like, but the overall idea of working on what you have and doing as much as you can, is a sound one and resonates with me. I know Uncle Tony bailed out of ‘Mission Impossible’ early on because his original idea got derailed, wish he was still involved and they kept to the original plan. Would have been cool to see what they could do with a low compression 318 2BBL, without exotic machining, and then install a 4BBL carb / intake, camshaft and headers and see what additional power it could make. Most of us live in this space.
I’ve had and still have 340’s and stroker small blocks that run hard, these are always great and never go out of favour. But there’s something so cool about putting some time & effort into a 273, 318, 360 and making ‘em sing. I’m able to port cylinder heads, not great, but they seem to work. I have a decent understanding of camshaft specs and what seems to work with various static compression ratios. Like most here, I understand the importance of dynamic compression and the closing point of the intake valve etc. It’s all about the intended use and overall combo, that either makes the thing shine or suck.
Some of the cars that UTG works on are a little Rattier than I would like, but the overall idea of working on what you have and doing as much as you can, is a sound one and resonates with me. I know Uncle Tony bailed out of ‘Mission Impossible’ early on because his original idea got derailed, wish he was still involved and they kept to the original plan. Would have been cool to see what they could do with a low compression 318 2BBL, without exotic machining, and then install a 4BBL carb / intake, camshaft and headers and see what additional power it could make. Most of us live in this space.
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9secRR
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RAMM is top notch. i speak from experience.
Dartswinger70
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318s are ok but they top out in RPM /Power quick they weren't designed to be 340s the 340 was designed to be a 340.
People go down in the dollar hole trying to prove otherwise. It gets silly because the best thing about a 318 is that they were cheap and plentiful.
Yes I do realize "that was then"
People go down in the dollar hole trying to prove otherwise. It gets silly because the best thing about a 318 is that they were cheap and plentiful.
Yes I do realize "that was then"
Icetech
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318s are ok but they top out in RPM /Power quick they weren't designed to be 340s the 340 was designed to be a 340.
People go down in the dollar hole trying to prove otherwise. It gets silly because the best thing about a 318 is that they were cheap and plentiful.
Yes I do realize "that was then"
I think it also depends what you are building for.. the max power i need for driving around and have fun is 450ish hp.. i'm not going to the track or spinning to 7k. I have enjoyed my 318 from the little i have driven it so far but i wouldn't say it's OMG! fast..
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