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:cry: does my distrubiter keep slipping? I cleaned any paint off the bottom of the clamp and snug r down real good but is getting worse each time. Every time here lately car starts surgeing then popping. Bring it back home, throw a light on it and it`s advanced about 10 more degrees. any suggestions? thanks
 
Does the retaining bolt happen to be too long and not pulling the clamp down tight enough?

The distributor is seating all the way down in the block isn't it?
 
Seems odd that the body is turning against the rotation of the shaft. I would take a look at the gear first.
 
Well, just checked timeing again, this time I don`t thinked it slipped. timeing mark is jumping around, about 10 before and after not staying steady, and popping from-, seems like right collector area, and an ocassional carb backfire. I have`nt pulled dist yet, would gear inspection be the first place to start? or look elsewhere? Help
 
Are you sure the dist itself is actually moving, or the timing just keeps changing? Sounds like a bad timing chain to me.
 
Are you sure the dist itself is actually moving, or the timing just keeps changing? Sounds like a bad timing chain to me.
Chain was replaced recently, Car ran great, last night I was out and it started acting up, runs good @ higher speeds with a little surging going on, but @ lower speeds and @ idle its gotten really bad doing the number I`ve posted above.
 
What sort of cam? Roller? They are hardened or billet so maybe the dist gear is getting chewed and missing a few teeth? If this is the case you need a bronze dist gear.
 
69-340, 30 over, crane 284 h12 flat tappet hydr. Can`t even set timeing now, marks fluctuates back n forth too much. timeing set is a 100+$ cloyes double roller, Installed back in april. I advanced dizz to 18 deg. and limited to 32. Car has run its best since this adjustment, now all of a sudden this? wth
 
View attachment 177017I just noticed, wires are bare, in sections to wiper motor, I guess its safe to assume factory did`nt design this that way. I unplugged from firewall block. engine same, no difference. I doubt it, but would wireing malfunction cause timeing to flux.? Seems it would have to be mechanical? Guess I`ll pull diz. and look @ gear
 
Sounds like a mechanical or vacuum advance problem in the dist.
Pulled diz. gear looks fine, gap is good. Can`t even get it started now without it backfireing from carb, had to snuff a carb fire. Vac adv. is not connected. rotor is free and snaps back fine. When it was running, but badly, seemed rotating diz. did`nt make any difference? I`m stumped. Could this be carb related? I can get it started but it takes alot of carb opening and once through a few backfires,I can get it going and it sounds good @ higher rpms. Lower throttle the pop, stumble, backfire, die. "In the voice of tweety bird" Haep!~Haep! me! :-? Oh, and pulled plugs, 1467 looked ok and 2358 looked fuel fowled. My mind is jumping all over the place, I think I need to go back to timeing. No way carb is involved if timeing is fluxing back + forth- Jeezsh
 
If cylinders 2358 are fuel fouled, its leading me towards carb or intake. The right side bank of your intake manifold feeds those exact cylinders. Could you have a massive vacuum leak on that side of the intake? The timing can jump around on you if the engine isnt running right and make it appear that is the problem, when it may only be a result of a different problem. I'd give a quick check to everything carb related, and a detailed look at that intake.
 
If cylinders 2358 are fuel fouled, its leading me towards carb or intake. The right side bank of your intake manifold feeds those exact cylinders. Could you have a massive vacuum leak on that side of the intake? The timing can jump around on you if the engine isnt running right and make it appear that is the problem, when it may only be a result of a different problem. I'd give a quick check to everything carb related, and a detailed look at that intake.
Holley 770 St.avenger, only a few years old. Could a power valve be blown? even though they supossedly corrected this problem? I guess I`ll pull it apart tomorrow and check things over. tomorrow was going to be reserved to work on my welder carb again after 15 r+r`s. when it rains it pours.

Harmonic balancer slipping?
Just put on a new $$ balancer when I did the chain back in april?
 

I think a power valve would be a possibility... I'm certainly no pro here, I just find it very suspect when those particular cylinders are all fouled. What about intake gaskets? Is it possible one side is leakin real bad? I'll keep thinkin and see if anything else comes to mind. Keep us updated.
 
Pulled diz. gear looks fine, gap is good. Can`t even get it started now without it backfireing from carb, had to snuff a carb fire.

Sounds like you put the distributor in 180 degrees out when you put it back in. Did you check where the rotor was point before you pulled it? Remove dist. and move rotor 180 degrees then try to start.
 
I think a power valve would be a possibility... I'm certainly no pro here, I just find it very suspect when those particular cylinders are all fouled. What about intake gaskets? Is it possible one side is leakin real bad? I'll keep thinkin and see if anything else comes to mind. Keep us updated.
I hear ya buddy, I`ve been working on my own junk for 35 years and they will stump me for another 35 I suspect. Just by looking at them they look fine. I`m gonna check for any cross contamination of oil/ water, tomorrow. Ran my ecm out to the Zone and it tested fine. I- and my bud, noticed some light tapping from right bank. I guess I should pull cover and see if any pushrods are bent or worn rockers. I`m with ya on the plugs, I guess a spray test around manifold will tell, but hate to run engine in this condition. But would`nt a vacume leak cause the cylinders to run lean instead of rich or fuel fouled?
I`m the type that gets sick when his baby does`nt run right. Intake is an ede. air gap, probably feed cyln. same as stock? Oh well, not the end of the world. Or is it?8)
 
Sounds like you put the distributor in 180 degrees out when you put it back in. Did you check where the rotor was point before you pulled it? Remove dist. and move rotor 180 degrees then try to start.
Yes checked rotor orientation before pulling, remember, car will run decent @ 2 grand or higher, then when I let down off throttle she starts its popping backfireing out right bank exhaust and through carb. seems somethings going on, with the right bank?
 
I'll give you a couple of things that happened to me.
Water under the cap. Or moisture anywhere for that matter.
Had a 340 Demon that ran like that. I pulled the distributor and put one in out of my 318 Barracuda. Fired right up and hauled ***. Shaft was bent just a little.
Dual points gapped improperly.
Hope this helps.
 
I'll give you a couple of things that happened to me.
Water under the cap. Or moisture anywhere for that matter.
Had a 340 Demon that ran like that. I pulled the distributor and put one in out of my 318 Barracuda. Fired right up and hauled ***. Shaft was bent just a little.
Dual points gapped improperly.
Hope this helps.
I checked under cap looked ok, will inspect closer tomorrow under better light, heck I think I have a new spare too. Going to run the diz. trigger out to be tested also. This car has been garage kept since 97, shes outdoors now, Probably pissed cause an old decrepit dodge has taken her place:-D
 
Look for carbon tracking under the cap, and also check all the ignition grounds you can find.
 
Plug wire crossfire?
Morning all, Yes the thought occured to me, If you look at the pic I posted of the wiper motor, in the back you`ll see a little paint rubbed off the firewall, thats from the boot of that wire, it`s wore a little but not near the wire. Why did Ma design it so close? I`ll do a closer inspection of all wires, but I have em loomed and they should be ok?

Look for carbon tracking under the cap, and also check all the ignition grounds you can find.
Yeah, once I get another couple cups of coffee in me I`m headed out to hit it again. Another thing I noticed, I pulled a vac plug from the back of carb and it had some fuel in it? Maybe normal considering the condition it`s running. I`m gonna look for my other cap, I pulled out my folder, and found my reciept, man, caps a year old allready, and showes I bought 2, So I`ll throw new one on there just to put it out of the equasion. Wish me luck:clock:
 
Wait until dark and start the engine.Then look for electrical arcing.
 
I agree with needs, when I got my valiant it horribly backfired and idled rough, found it it was one of the leads for my ignition coil arcing with the windshield wiper motor
 
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