Deep Port Matching Intakes- Worth extra cost?

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illcuda65

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Just need a little bit of information from the experts here on the forum. I have been looking at Edelbrock RPM air gap intake manifolds for a while. Hughes Engines is not very far away from me and they offer deep port matching on the intake. The stock intake is listed at 260. The deep port matching intake is listed at $425.

Is the deep port matching worth 165? What does this process really do?

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Bryan
 
Depends on level of performance you seek. Are you trying for a max effort? If yes, the do it. If not, no worries. Leave it be.
 
I would say if you think the motor is going to be choked by the intake at hi rpms & your going to be in the upper rpm's a lot, step up to a single plane like a victor or M1
 
Depends on a lot of things, one being the combo.

If the heads flow at or below the 260cfm rating of that particular intake, then maybe not, because all you'll be doing in a sense is allowing in more air but at a slower pace/velocity.

When you open/widen/enlarge an air passage, like in a head/intake runner, the air slows down some.

A good example is when people gasket port match their intake and heads port window, all they are doing is creating this hour glass effect-plenum-runner-port going from a larg plenum area -then bottle necking down through the runner-then opening up again at the manifold exit/port window just to immediately taper off and squeeze by the push rod pinch.

So if they pinch only flows x amount, and widening/enlarging slows things down 'enough', I would say as long as you have the same x amount flowing through both head/intake manifold, I wouldn't really be too concerned or be looking for more than the head will move 'at sacrifice of torque producing velocity'.

I myself NEVER gasket match the push rod pinch side of the port windows, only the roof/floor/divider.

The pinch is the law with sb iron, so why bottle neck into the inevitable?

I know this is more around your question than head on answering it, so in a nut shell with the above in mind, unless the heads flow more than 260cfm, don't bother with the ported intake, I would maybe have some plenum work/blending done and open the windows up only to what you have now.
If the heads you have now are opened up to the gaskets already, well...it is what it is.
 

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I myself NEVER gasket match the push rod pinch side of the port windows, only the roof/floor/divider.
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Here's the port window matched on my intake. You need the heads to do it.

The plenum is just cleaned up of burrs and stuff that can cause turbulance. And the carb hole changed to square bore from tapered bore.

Is this going to make me go $165 faster? NO... But we did it ourselves.
 

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I will be swapping out my 318 for a 340 bored .20 to a 364. Should be putting out 425-450 hp. It is going to be a nice little hot rod cruiser that is made to perform extremely well when called to do so.
 
Here's the port window matched on my intake. You need the heads to do it.

The plenum is just cleaned up of burrs and stuff that can cause turbulance. And the carb hole changed to square bore from tapered bore.

Is this going to make me go $165 faster? NO... But we did it ourselves.



Looks good and those are the types of things he can do.

I see in the pick the divider wall is blended and matched for smooth transfer/flow.
good job.

My stuff lines up the same as well, I only blend the push rod side wall of the intake to match the STOCK push rod wall portion of the port entrance.
So it's still smooth and flowing, just without the speed bump/funneling.

A good way to do a pro gasket match is to use the plastic locators to hold the gasket on the heads, then bolt the intake down 'torqued to spec', then drill a small locating hole through the intake/gasket/head next to each '2nd from end' intake bolt. Once this is done, remove the intake/gaskets, locate the gasket to the intake with the hole drilled by using extra drill bits or small bolts and port match , then do the same on the heads port windows.

Now you can put it back together using the drilled locating holes and drill bits/1/8 bolts and have it all remain lined up and matched AND without the gasket hanging into the ports.
 
I will be swapping out my 318 for a 340 bored .20 to a 364. Should be putting out 425-450 hp. It is going to be a nice little hot rod cruiser that is made to perform extremely well when called to do so.

that would be a 342 or 343 cid at .020 or 4.060 borex3.31 stroke
 
My bad- wrong info on my crank- It is just a .020 over motor right now, so it is 4.060 bore. It comes out to 364 4.06x3.51x8
 
425/450hp you should be fine with the stock air gap that hp level is somewhat mild nowadays, i would not go to a single plane.
 
There;s no reason IMO to port a dual plane unless you are forced to run it. Use a single plane if you feel you need more power. I think for what you're building the RPM is the best choice. Gasket match it and forget the Hughes fluff.
 
There;s no reason IMO to port a dual plane unless you are forced to run it. Use a single plane if you feel you need more power. I think for what you're building the RPM is the best choice. Gasket match it and forget the Hughes fluff.

I agree 100%...
 
There;s no reason IMO to port a dual plane unless you are forced to run it. Use a single plane if you feel you need more power. I think for what you're building the RPM is the best choice. Gasket match it and forget the Hughes fluff.

Thats a boldly generalized statement.:shock:

There is way more to it than that, way more.

Those reading that should look into basic manifold design/pros cons and consider rpm/cam range, cfm goal/requirement, velocity application to the concerned combo, carb size, usage, the list go's on....

Total flow is not everything when it comes at the sacrifice of needed velocity. Single plane manifolds flowing 20 cfm more than the current dual plane can actually hurt the velocity to a point that you make LESS power, let alone the 180 design allows for stronger pulses by separating consecutive firing cylinders that would rob signal/charge from one another.

I won't write a long winded explanation, those who want to know can simply google the diff, I hope they do.

While some accidently stumble into power with mixed up combos.... The proper dosage is most important.
 
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