I just want to burn and get rid of this stuff

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Definatley donate them to a museum. When my mom work for the local police, people would turn in countless ww2 things such as firearms, ammo, medals and such assuming they would take care of them. When in reality they are destroyed.

I would leave it for future generations to learn from.
 
Well I called my wife just now and she posted them in some other sight late last night
Let me see if this works, http://www.etsy.com/shop/modretro?ref=seller_info
I will do everything in my power to get these to where they belong and if I can pull any strings with my wife I will see if I can get these to a member here.
Looks like she has them priced and did some back grown work, my wife said that her aunt's son past away about two mouths ago and started pulling thing out for a rummage sale. This was new news to me and it looks like she is trying to raise money for her aunt.
I could not believe the prices she came up with :tongue9:
I told her about this rant thread I put up and she said $500 for everything she has :wack: Sorry dear, but I guess I just don't get it :angry7:

If this stuff don't sell soon I will call her aunt myself :angry7: and have here read this thread if she has a computor..
She brought this stuff to the hill Saturday noon and I showed her a spider she brought with it :angry7: and told her to keep an eye in her car....
Sorry, just having a bad day with all this rain and floods here and getting tired of her bringing things like this in our cottage on the hill :wack:

Rant over and thank you for the eye opening experience :happy10:
Now I know why she surprised me with a cold beer to settle me down and num. my brain........
 
Pretty neat stuff, it should sell. I wonder if the one damaged pin was from a bullet?
 
From wikipedia :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

I've used both traditional swastikas as well as the convoluted versions in my artwork ; I do this to make people think .

Skrewdriver became disillusioned . Never been a fan of their works , politically or musically , so I cannot give an honest assessment of their directive . All I know is that every "Bone Head" I ever had the displeasure of knowing was a fanatic of Skrewdriver .

And , since the topic's been brought to the table : not all Skinheads are racist pigs . The ones I hung around with were "Trad" ; their attire was Mod-inspired ; their choices in music were primarily Jazz , Motown , R&B , 2-Tone , Ska , Dance Hall , early Reggae ( pre-Rasta Fari political movement ) .
"Bone Head" is a term used for racist skins .
 
id say donate them...at least you know where they are going and not to a hate monger acting like a rare item collector.
 
LH23H2R said:
From wikipedia :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

I've used both traditional swastikas as well as the convoluted versions in my artwork ; I do this to make people think .

Skrewdriver became disillusioned . Never been a fan of their works , politically or musically , so I cannot give an honest assessment of their directive . All I know is that every "Bone Head" I ever had the displeasure of knowing was a fanatic of Skrewdriver .

And , since the topic's been brought to the table : not all Skinheads are racist pigs . The ones I hung around with were "Trad" ; their attire was Mod-inspired ; their choices in music were primarily Jazz , Motown , R&B , 2-Tone , Ska , Dance Hall , early Reggae ( pre-Rasta Fari political movement ) .
"Bone Head" is a term used for racist skins .
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arent those guy called SHARPs?

Skin Heads Against Racial Prejudice.
 
Mike,

Please don't destroy them. Sell them, donate them, whatever, as long as they go to a worthwhile, non-violent cause.

WWII German soldiers were serving their country, even if it was run by a madman. I used to know an ex Luftwaffe pilot, was my neighbor many years ago. Hitler and Naziism were not universally embraced, but the soldiers did as they were ordered to do. No excuses, but war is hell. I doubt the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki look at the Enola Gay crew as heroes, but they did what they had to do and the world became a better place. The medals and mementos are now history. History ignored is bound to repeat itself.
 
64X2 said:
Being Jewish and some of my family died because of Hitler, I say donate to a museum, we need reminders for the younger generation of the injustices that men put others through and a reminder of all the hard work and death that American service men gave...
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I'm not Jewish, but I agree we learn from the past.
 
I agree that these are trophies of a hard fought victory, and were likely celebrated by your kin. However, if they bother you, you could just e-bay them, and donate the money to a veterans organization maybe?
Never "give" them to a collector.They were earned by your relative.
 
Gryzynx said:
Mike,

Please don't destroy them. Sell them, donate them, whatever, as long as they go to a worthwhile, non-violent cause.

WWII German soldiers were serving their country, even if it was run by a madman. I used to know an ex Luftwaffe pilot, was my neighbor many years ago. Hitler and Naziism were not universally embraced, but the soldiers did as they were ordered to do. No excuses, but war is hell. I doubt the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki look at the Enola Gay crew as heroes, but they did what they had to do and the world became a better place. The medals and mementos are now history. History ignored is bound to repeat itself.
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I have learned allot this morning Gryzynx, and it's never to late to learn of these thing that I was raised to be bad in life. I am looking at these things with an open mind and will let these silly things that was put in my brain as a child rest and continue my day. I feel so childish, and I ow my wife an apology for my little fit I threw when I seen them :angry7:.
No hate here and just protecting my space I guess :love7:
And I want to thank you all for helping me up yet one more mountain to climb as I grow up at my age.:clock:


SleeperScamp said:
I'm not Jewish, but I agree we learn from the past.
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Just a Native and learning everyday SS, The past is the past and we must learn of the way to have faith and happiness in this world we liv in.
Again, just one more mountain to climb and see the other side . Thank you all again.
 
MtNemoMopar said:
I agree that these are trophies of a hard fought victory, and were likely celebrated by your kin. However, if they bother you, you could just e-bay them, and donate the money to a veterans organization maybe?
Never "give" them to a collector.They were earned by your relative.
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E-bay will not let them be sold on there sight, and the daughter of the man that brought them back want's my wife to sell them for her, she is alone and she makes all the decisions 8) my wife is just helping here do this MtNemo.
I have learned allot today :tongue9:
 
Thanks for the clarification.....:-D
LH23H2R said:
From wikipedia :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

I've used both traditional swastikas as well as the convoluted versions in my artwork ; I do this to make people think .

Skrewdriver became disillusioned . Never been a fan of their works , politically or musically , so I cannot give an honest assessment of their directive . All I know is that every "Bone Head" I ever had the displeasure of knowing was a fanatic of Skrewdriver .

And , since the topic's been brought to the table : not all Skinheads are racist pigs . The ones I hung around with were "Trad" ; their attire was Mod-inspired ; their choices in music were primarily Jazz , Motown , R&B , 2-Tone , Ska , Dance Hall , early Reggae ( pre-Rasta Fari political movement ) .
"Bone Head" is a term used for racist skins .
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Had a lot friend into that organization...I was a punker in the early eighties in NYC......
Gnome said:
arent those guy called SHARPs?

Skin Heads Against Racial Prejudice.
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Gnome said:
arent those guy called SHARPs?

Skin Heads Against Racial Prejudice.
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You're right ; that's one faction of the non-racist skins .

I used to associate with guys -- and gals -- from Carson , Norwalk Trad , Unity and others .
Most of the guys from Carson were Asian and Samoan ; Norwalk Trad were an almost even mix of Mexicans and Caucasians ; and Unity were a true mix of Asian , Caucasian , Latin , Afro , etc. , etc. descents .

We used to hang out at a record store in L.A. called Cultcha Beat [sic] , which was full of Jamaican and Dominican Republic vinyl , as well as used records , cassettes and c.d.'s from Motown , Stax , 2-Tone , etc. , etc. ; lots of Northern Soul / Blue Eye Blues and other sounds .

I also knew some Oi! skins , which were harder-edged ; more Punk sounding and feeling ; much more aggressive !
There were a group of these guys living in the abandoned houses in Norwalk which would appear in 1983's Suburbia ( highly recommended for my fellow Punk fans or those whom have an interest in watching urban decay ) .
 
What a great film and slice of history.....
still hate Buses......
LH23H2R said:
There were a group of these guys living in the abandoned houses in Norwalk which would appear in 1983's Suburbia ( highly recommended for my fellow Punk fans or those whom have an interest in watching urban decay ) .
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This is how i see it. i grew up with a Vietnam veteran (my father) that spent 29 days eating 1 small bowl of rice a week and whatever happened to swim near. He has hard feelings toward the those that held him prisoner and those that shot him down and killed his friends, but he also sees it the same way they did. "orders are orders and they are to be followed to a T" said my father. He exchanged flags (the one that goes on their sleeve) with a Vietnam soldier that spared his life. I know, not the same situation, but mabey its the same situation your wifes Uncle went through. Just food for thought. Take it as you will and good luck to ya!
 
MeMike, I collect memorobilia from WWII, I have many things that are on loan to some local places. I have a poster I am trying to loan to the Smithsonian for its WWII exhibit because its in better shape than the one they have there. I feel that we need reminders of evil and how good can triumph over it. We must keep these memories alive as the ones who have fought to destroy this evil are now a dying generation and thier voices are quieting. Santa Anna was right when he said that those who do not remember history are bound to repeat it. WWII was a war of great human abuse and brutality on all sides and must never be forgotten.
 
I'm glad your not going to destroy the items. Sometimes people destroy things they don't understand. Iam a WW2 history buff. Not all German soldiers were simpathetic to the Nozi movement, many were forced to serve or face firing squads. This was even greater towards the end of the war as children were recruited for lack of young adault men. What you have is a treasure and you were linked to that person and time. Feel privaleged.
 
MeMike,this is the way I see it.If the old man knew his wife was needing money for bills,food,etc..and she(the aunt)could sell these items to help get by,by all means sell them and help the old lady.Put yourself in an elders shoes on a fixed income.The old man would be happy to know that some good came from these historic pieces.Just a thought...Good luck.:-D
 
DONATE them to a museum...to a private collector, there is no reasonable way to determine WHO is collecting for hate reasons or who is not.....
They are/were trophies of the Allied victory over Axis hatred...every race on the planet takes a "trophy" from a victory of war/battle/fight. Burning them eliminates the memory and erases the things that people need to remember and recognize the traits should they approach again!!! FAR too many have already forgotten those atrocities, hell some folks don't even want to remember the 9/11 and are more than willing to accept suggestions of Kiss & make up......I do not think so!!! its too easy for those who did not serve and did not see the carnage to become complacent and accepting and embrace the diversity....crapola!!!
 
Stuff like that needs to be preserved so future generations can learn what went wrong in the past so it can be avoided in the future. There is a very true "saying" that goes something like "Those who don't learn from the past, tend to repeat it."

What if everything from World War 2 is destroyed, no examples of what Nazi Germany was all about, or no evidence of Japanese attrocities? There are people already who are trying to say that the Holocaust didn't happen and I've heard many stories of history books being incomplete or outright inaccurate.

The people, including relatives and ancestors who fought, and died, to preserve our freedom will be forgotten also! How can future generations care about who died in what war when they don't even know anything about those wars? People need to know who, what, when, where, why, how, etc. You think that the guy who brought those items back after putting his life on the line, and probably lost friends in the process, would want those items burned, trashed and forgotten? Preserving them isn't memorializing or glorifying what they represent. It's a reminder that what they represent shouldn't be allowed again. Find a museum who can convey the proper message for future generations.
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I just noticed that ILLDuster74 posted that same quote. Missed it while "skimming". I didn't realize that Santa Ana said it. Now I'm curious under what circumstances it was said!
 
Donate them if you don't like..However, my grandfathers, father and mother, my wife's father all served and several paid the price. Their sacrifices gave us the freedom to live free and to speak our minds. Many went overseas as kids and came home broken. My father had to clean up 150 soldiers and woman bodies in the middle of the winter..apparently, a billet and dance hall, when it was filled was burnt down by a German spy..dad was almost in it but ended up going somewhere else...the door were put on wrong and all expired trying to get out. Dad never said a word. I saw this event on the discovery channel and the moderator could not keep a straight face..i called mom about it and she said dad was part of the crew..apparently, they kept the men drunk so the men could handle it. My farther in law..now deceased, disabled a sub off Africa..he took off the neck metal from an officer. His sister gave it to us just before she died.

This metal, and other things, remind us of the sacrifices that our parents made for us and to teach us to never forget.

Donate but not sell..I think by selling that you would do a disservice to the man who brought them home.

Give, not sell.
Sorry for my rant..
 
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