1966 Barracuda 273 Died!!! HELP

[cosgig]

Travis, maybe check that bundle of receipts that came with the car and see if Jim changed the timing chain when he did the heads for Dave. Not thay this would prevent it from happening, but if it were the old original chain, I may suspect the chain a little more than a new one. Jim would have surely used a double roller unit as he's a hot rodder too!! Just a thought, Geof

 

[bkbond12]

Travis, maybe check that bundle of receipts that came with the car and see if Jim changed the timing chain when he did the heads for Dave. Not thay this would prevent it from happening, but if it were the old original chain, I may suspect the chain a little more than a new one. Jim would have surely used a double roller unit as he's a hot rodder too!! Just a thought, Geof

I will do that when I get a chance Geof. Unfortunately, I haven't had any free time to even get on here. I tried to break the distributor free using a chisel, but it's stuck tight.

I'm somewhat doubting I'll have any free time for a little while. My son Cody broke his leg yesterday. I'm going to be attending to his needs for quite a while now. It was a radially break in the tibia (aka shinbone) which is the main weight bearing bone in the lower leg. You can see the break in right next to the 'L' in the photo below. He is definitely a tough guy.

 

[RedFish]

OUCH ! I wish the son a speedy recovery. If they put a plaster cast on that leg, dont sweat it, literally. Keep it cold so it dont itch as much.
Some will refer to their broken car and say "If it was a horse I'd have to shoot it".
You could say that about both car and son. LOL
Wish I could be of more help.

 

[bkbond12]

Well, I had a little time today, so I pulled the valve cover and all the valves were moving. I finally got the dizzy out and the "slotted" part is broken off in the cam eccentric gear. I'm still working on it, but am going to try to pull the gear out to get the broken distributor shaft out. I took some pics and will post them up later.

 

[chryslerfat]

We hope the leg is ok.

 

[bkbond12]

We hope the leg is ok.

His leg is doing great. He has been in very good spirits and Monday he gets another x-ray and they'll prolly shorten the cast from above the knee to below the knee.

 

[bkbond12]

I got the distributor out and as you can see in the picture, it sheared the slotted end off and bent the hell out of the shaft. I couldn't get the gear out, so I ended up pulling the intake and was able to get it out. The big problem is that I couldn't get the broken part of the distributor out of it. I'm going to put it in a vice later and try to pry/tap on it so that I can get a pair of vice-grips on it and pull it out.

Anyone got a distributor and/or the gear they want to sell cheap? I'll prolly post up a want ad in the classifieds later.

 

[trapster]

Wow is your distributor frozen ?
You probably should replace the bronze guide for that also,I am not sites how to get that out through

 

[trapster]

SEALED POWER Part # 2246166

Look like it will run you about 50 bucks on rockauto or Ebay
I would not get a used one, you don't know how much wear it will have
Good luck

 

[RedFish]

I've heard of that happening but never seen it before. Cast iron distributers have a oil cup port.
Original 67 273 single point distrubuter here if you want.

 

[bkbond12]

Wow is your distributor frozen ?
You probably should replace the bronze guide for that also,I am not sites how to get that out through

Frozen is an understatement.....it bent the whole shaft and snapped the slotted piece right off. The bronze guide looks pretty good and my uncle just found a spare dizzy for me. It's from a low mileage 318, so I'm gonna give that a go and see what happens.

Thanks everyone for all the help.

 

[chryslerfat]

So are we back cruising yet?

 

[bkbond12]

Been working on it all morning. I brought number 1 cylinder up to TDC and dropped the oil pump drive in so that the distributor pointed to the number 1 and can't get it to fire. I have spark at the points, and plugs and it's getting gas. I have the firing order right and triple checked, just can't get it to fire. Am I wrong in how I dropped the dizzy in? Suggestions?

 

[sireland67]

Take #1 spark plug out, place your finger over the spark plug hole.
Have somebody bump the starter until you feel a big push of compression.
Check to make sure the rotor button points to #1 cylinder on the distributor cap.

 

[bkbond12]

Take #1 spark plug out, place your finger over the spark plug hole.
Have somebody bump the starter until you feel a big push of compression.
Check to make sure the rotor button points to #1 cylinder on the distributor cap.

I used a screwdriver to find TDC on the number 1 cylinder and then made sure the rotor pointed toward the #1 cylinder on the cap. I couldn't get it to fire or backfire at all...nothing. It has spark and I'm sure I was close in the timing, I tried everything uptown +-20 degrees.

I couldn't find a timing mark on the harmonic balancer and the only things I can think of are that the PO did a timing chain and went 180 degrees wrong or one of the timing gears sheared a tooth or so and through the timing way off. I really don't know, so any suggestions would ne appreciated.

 

[sireland67]

Just because the piston was all the way up in the cylinder does not mean it was on compression stroke.
Pull #1 spark plug and bump it over until you feel compression come out the plug hole.
Also dont use a screwdriver to check for piston travel, my cousin broke a piston in his 401 AMC one time doing that, use a straw instead.

 

[bkbond12]

Just because the piston was all the way up in the cylinder does not mean it was on compression stroke.
Pull #1 spark plug and bump it over until you feel compression come out the plug hole.
Also dont use a screwdriver to check for piston travel, my cousin broke a piston in his 401 AMC one time doing that, use a straw instead.

Got it running. Wasn't thinking straight and didn't have it on the compression stroke TDC, so I was 180 off. Thanks everyone for the help.

 

[sireland67]

Glad you got it running, I hope that I was able to help you.
I kinda figured you had it 180 out.