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I see absolutely nothing wrong with what you did Rob. I've been around a screaming kid for a few minutes but never that bad. I'd sure be tempted to do the same thing if I were.

As far as bringing a kid in my thought is it's a restaurant that primarily serves food but also serves alcoholic drinks and for that reason it's ok because eating is the primary objective there and rarely do you see someone get drunk there. They just have 1 or 2 drinks to go with their meal. If it were reversed, a bar that served food, I'd agree that a child should not be brought in cause the primary reason people are there are to drink.
 
it's not just places that serve adult beverages ....its everywhere.

I was looked at like I am an huge *** when I was in church and this kid kept screaming and I told the mother, "you do realize we have a daycare room here, right" and somehow I am a huge *** because I don't want to be disturbed with really shrill screaming.

Your experience is exactly why I like to get take out food and bring it home and enjoy in peace in my own house where I don't have to look at people.
 
Just askin here......those of you who don't think children should be banned......do you think children should be welcomed everywhere? Adults don't deserve somewhere they can get a break?

Used to be restaurants, hospitals and other places restricted children under a certain age. I just don't agree that children should be allowed every damn where they want to go.

Kinda like the old sign in certain places that read "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason". WTF happened to privately owned establishments that were free to operate how they wanted and not forced to serve everyone all of the time? A privately owned business. That used to mean something.
 
Johnny Dart said:
Entitlement........Thats what its all about nowadays. Especially with the young millennials.
Their children are entitled to do/act how ever they want. I say BS.
I would have bought you a drink.
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Holy ****...THIS guy gets it.
The "Entitlement Mentality" is the worst thing to ever be planted in the American mind.
It destroys manners.
It destroys the work ethic.
It empowers people that are too stupid to know that they should be humble.
It causes road rage.
Rob, I am absolutely with you on this. I have done the same more than once. Parents sometimes seem to develop a deaf condition to their own kid's yelling and screaming. Same thing occurs to some people with their pets. I do my best to keep our dog's barking to a minimum.
 
RustyRatRod said:
do you think children should be welcomed everywhere? Adults don't deserve somewhere they can get a break?
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we take our daughter just about everywhere with us.. there are two local bars that have good food that we take her to often.. they have a seating area but they are bars first. i don't see a problem with it.. now we aren't taking her in there after like 8pm. not sure kids are even allowed in there that late and its not like she we are sitting at the bar either..lol..

kids aren't allowed in a tittie bar.. 21 and over in booze is served even if the place serves food in this area..

RustyRatRod said:
Kinda like the old sign in certain places that read "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason". WTF happened to privately owned establishments that were free to operate how they wanted and not forced to serve everyone all of the time? A privately owned business. That used to mean something.
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they still do it.. ya see from time to time on the news places banning kids... others like the added income of allowing everyone to come and and spend money..

in the end it comes down to common sense on the parents part... i can remember when rylee was young having to leave a places before eating because she was all wound up. other times we took her out side until she calmed down.. as she got older if she acted up she got walked outside and smacked. only had to do that a couple times before all ya had to say to her was "you want to take a walk outside?". she wasn't happy after that but calmed right down...:) just a fact of life that all kids will get wound up when young from time to time.. its how the parents deal with it that shapes the kids properly..

a place should have no problem asking a disruptive family to leave. but i don't think they should ban kids all together.

like everything else in life.. a few bad apples potentially ruin it for everyone..

RustyRatRod said:
Kinda like the old sign in certain places that read "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason". WTF happened to privately owned establishments that were free to operate how they wanted and not forced to serve everyone all of the time? A privately owned business. That used to mean something.
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like the signs that used to say " only whites served here" ?


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RustyRatRod said:
Just askin here......those of you who don't think children should be banned......do you think children should be welcomed everywhere? Adults don't deserve somewhere they can get a break?

Used to be restaurants, hospitals and other places restricted children under a certain age. I just don't agree that children should be allowed every damn where they want to go.

Kinda like the old sign in certain places that read "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason". WTF happened to privately owned establishments that were free to operate how
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they wanted and not forced to serve everyone all of the time? A privately owned business. That
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used to mean something.
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Another "politically correct" , or money hungry situation. RRR u did the right thing. Unfortunatly, around here , there probably would have been a fight! Or a shooting !
 
Don't ban the kids..... Ban the parents who have kids and can't control them.... Chances are the fruit does not fall far from the tree.... At an early age those kids are being taught disrespect and will be seasoned veterans in just a few more years. Good job mom and dad.....

Did you do the right thing? Don't know and I was not there but when a person hits the limit with something typically there is a reaction. I know my own DNA and would have just got up and found something else to do because had the parents not liked my actions and wanted to escalate it then we would have had a hot mess lol.... Personally I would have bought you a drink or or rode in the Paddy Wagon with you had I been there....

JW
 
I would have done the same. I was always told that little kids are meant to be seen, not heard.
 
Exactly.
Remove the child from the situation. My kids were quiet, if not out we went. Respecting your neighbours isnt just the people next door.
Same in the in any store. Kids cant be running around and acting up.

The little rodents know when they are in a public place and think they can get away with it, not gonna get smacked in public, right?

You are a paying customer,as well as everybody else in that place,last thing people want to do is listen to that for an hour and a half.
 
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What is it with people now a daze?
They can't even cook when they are home.
Food Delivery | Restaurant Takeout | Order Food Online | Grubhub
"Here's my money. Cook for me"

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I don't need booze with food.
The wife and I really don't go out to eat much.
Pay big money for a piece of cow, cheap *** potato and expensive desert?
My daddy didn't raise no fool.
(Someone tells me "We are going out for Italian.
I say: "Oh, you are going to eat noodles")
My cooking is better anyway than a restaurant .
When we do go out, we like Chic Fil A.
I feel good giving money to the little Christian kids behind the counter and it's a nice place to people watch.


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This taco place you went?
The food better have been worth it.
I would have either left or started screaming my self.
Hey, if the kid can do it so can I.
That being said, I have no problem with your actions.
 
adriver said:
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What is it with people now a daze?
They can't even cook when they are home.
Food Delivery | Restaurant Takeout | Order Food Online | Grubhub
"Here's my money. Cook for me"

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I don't need booze with food.
The wife and I really don't go out to eat much.
Pay big money for a piece of cow, cheap *** potato and expensive desert?
My daddy didn't raise no fool.
(Someone tells me "We are going out for Italian.
I say: "Oh, you are going to eat noodles")
My cooking is better anyway than a restaurant .
When we do go out, we like Chic Fil A.
I feel good giving money to the little Christian kids behind the counter and it's a nice place to people watch.


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This taco place you went?
The food better have been worth it.
I would have either left or started screaming my self.
Hey, if the kid can do it so can I.
That being said, I have no problem with your actions.
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Enjoyed this post. Hate Italian food also !
 
Even the big chain restaurants serve alcohol.

As the parent of two boys, I like to take them out and expose them to the general public as they learn to act appropriately in public settings, alcohol or not.

Would I take them to a bar that serves food? No. Would I take them to a restaurant that serves alcohol? Have and will continue to do so. No different than taking them to Grandma's Christmas Eve party.

For me, like I said, it's an attempt to teach them to be respectful in a public setting. I haven't had an issue to this point.

If one of them misbehaved out the door we would go. Others are seeking to enjoy a night out, just like we are and my boys shouldn't spoil that for those around us.
 
Thank you for doing what I did not want to be "counselled" for!
 
my experience with kids is they usually scream for 3 reasons .
1 they need a diaper change
2 they are hungry
3 they have gas pains .

all 3 can be be delt with easily if the parents can set their phones long enough to take care of business .
 
RustyRatRod said:
Kitty and I have a local Mexican joint we frequent on the occasion for supper. They are the usual style joint with a bar and serve alcohol.

Tonight, we went and they were very busy. The whole time........from start to finish there was a very young child (probably under two) squealing, shrieking, screaming as loudly as it COULD. After about 20 straight minutes, I said "VERY
" loudly.....people in the kitchen probably heard me, "That's ENOUGH of that screamin". My voice is boombing and very bass, so I know I got the point across. The screamin DRASTICALLY decreased.



So, what's your opinion here? I am of the thinking that children below a certain age, (my thinking is under 12), have no business even IN a place that serves
adult beverages.

Maybe archaic thinking to some, but I believe that YOUR rights end where MINE begin. These parents were totally ignoring the child's screaming and were boh
tuned out on their cell phones. I don't go out to PAY for hearing a brat scream.

What say you? Was I rude? Not that I really give a crap......I'd do it again. lol
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Next time stay home and crack open a can of Spam.
Less stress.
 
I agree with RRR, you pay to eat out, and not have to deal with noisy, mis behaved spoiled snot nosed kids.

I bet those of you that remember being a kid back in the dark ages of the 60's, you rarely saw this behavior tolerated by parents. If the parent take a small child into church services ( no daycare), if the kid made noise , mom quietly went out side. Generally small kids did not frequent a decent restaurant, Mickey D's yes.

I feel bad for the school teachers, think about it.

Attitudes and manners have, in most part, drastically changed, and for the worse.
 
Parents fault, hands down! You were perfectly within your rights to do what you did, and if I was the parent, I would consider it a wake up call!! That said, I've never been that parent because my kids are well behaved, although Nella has had a few moments out in the real world, due to her foot pain!! One lady told my wife that Nella should be left at home when they were in line at Walmart, like that is the epicenter of well mannered people!!

I've always told my kids to look around, do you see anybody else doing "***"?? If not, you should
Not be doing it either!!
 
ive been on both sides of this issue and it really comes down to the parents
kids dont cry unless they have their parents trained

funny story, ive been out a restaurant once, a few years ago and i think my kids were 6 and 3 at the time
well the 6 year old had done something wrong, wrong enough that he wasnt going to get away with it so i took him out to the restroom (i never discipline my kids in sight of others)
i did not realize however, that the walls were made out of cardboard
now, keep in mind, the offence was not hear by anyone in the restaurant BUT every slap and every cry after that was

when we walked out of that restroom, i could feel every person in that place giving me the stare, and by the time i made it back to the booth, the wife had allready asked for the bill





as for the fact the serve alcohol
thats a toughy
we go to applebees after church sometimes, and there have been times we have had visiting preachers or missionaries with us who wouldnt darken the door of any place that sells alcohol and we would just go to ihop next door
but when we go to applebees there are usually at least half a dozen kids, some todlers, babies
you wont hear anything out of line

on the other hand, there is a town we used to visit about once a month, and there were two mexican restaurants there
both decent but one had every single inch of the wall covered with alcohol commercials, the other one was "dry"
that one was just to big to ignore so we always went to the dry one
 
67Dart273 said:
At another local place, there was a couple in the booth to my rear who believe it or not were talking about scientific research having to do with products of afterbirth. I didn't even turn around, I just said "can we PLEASE have a different subject of discussion over dinner?"
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been on both sides of this one too
once i was at ihop with the family and some kids sat down behind us (after we were allready there)
well, their language was disgusting
so i asked them nicely to use proper language and they disrespect me, start talking louder, and with worse words
so i take my jacket off and turn around to put it on my chair (turning my back on them)
then i faced them again and asked them again, one more time
this time my request was much better received (perhaps because when i put my jacket on the chair they could see the but of my ruger poking out of its holster)


on the other hand, we were once having dinner in a real nice place
the wife, me and two friends
as conversation progressed we ended up talking about the KJV and modern bible interpretations
at some point, i noticed everyone in the room was listening to me, so i got on my soapbox and get into an expose on how the niv and all the other critical text versions and how Jesus is God, the KJV makes that perfectly clear, but the other ones not so much. and how the other versions downplay the Blood of Christ and how that without the shedding of blood, there is NO remission of sins.
a few seconds after i finished, a waitress came to the table behind us, and i could hear the man ask for a box because "the conversation here was sickening him"
 
I would hope an adult has the discretion to know that the other diners in a real nice place do not want to hear someone take a stand for their religion. There is a time and place for everything.
 
Chain restaurants overseas have different items on the menu. In Madrid, Spain, I ordered a draft beer at McDonald's.
 
When my kids were little and we went out for dinner, if they acted up they got one warning. Next time, they were told we all would be leaving and not be going out to dinner again until their Birthday,if they were lucky.

We only had to walk out once......in all those years.LOL

Simple parenting 101.....
Parents these days need to learn how to be creative. AND ACTUALLY CARE.
 
RustyRatRod said:
Just askin here......those of you who don't think children should be banned......do you think children should be welcomed everywhere? Adults don't deserve somewhere they can get a break?

Used to be restaurants, hospitals and other places restricted children under a certain age. I just don't agree that children should be allowed every damn where they want to go.

Kinda like the old sign in certain places that read "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason". WTF happened to privately owned establishments that were free to operate how they wanted and not forced to serve everyone all of the time? A privately owned business. That used to mean something.
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Rob this is what it comes down to in my opinion.
A kid of any age is welcome anywhere a kid can legally be, and it is (should be) a decision of the parents to remove said kid if he isn't acting appropriately.
Screaming in a restaurant where others are having a meal isn't appropriate, and the parents should remove the child until he understands this.
No punishment or anything like that, but just a simple sentence that until you can quit screaming while people are trying to have a meal you are not going.

The problem is when the parents don't think it's worth their inconvenience to allow you to have the right to eat without their kid screaming.
I think I would have asked the manager to deal with it first, and THEN gone right to the parents.

OH, and by the way.
Go to the damn restroom to blow your nose ya frickin disgusting noise making pig.:D

One of my peaves.:D
 
A lot of places serve alcohol now. I don't see that having any bearing. Kids need to learn what is acceptable, and an occasional outburst may happen. It usually means the kid wants attention - and at home, maybe ignoring it is a good response, but not in a restaurant. If our kids got out of control in any public place we dealt with it quickly, including removing them from the situation if needed. Sucks that managers don't do there job, and maintaining a pleasant atmosphere is absolutely part of that.
 
My little brother used to pull "temper tantrums" at home. Mom put him in the shower and turned on the cold water, he snapped right out of it.
 
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