Yes I don't know the history of the bbm and the 2.08 valve but it seems they didn't think they needed larger than 2.08 for there performance 413/426 Max Wedge and 440 and 440 six pack but they were all so worried about 383 performance breathing abilities that it only became standard equipment for the 383 when it became standard equipment for rest.........
Ahhh, the entertainment continues..........
According to you the two motors make the same horsepower with a lower gear in the 367. Why would it be easier to hook up if they make the same power?
torque (or less of it)?
If you watch the video in this situation they have the same amount of money in each motor. So there wouldn't be money left over to buy heads and a roller camshaft. They bought the same price parts for each motor. Heads, intake, pistons, rods, etc. They bought a stock replacement quality stroker crank and had the stock 360 crank internally balanced with heavy metal. Their accounting made the crankshafts pretty much a wash.
If you watch the show it will give you the cost of the crankshaft. As far as the internal balance I think the reason they gave was ability to swap flywheel or converters with internal balance. No mention of a performance gain that I recall. It's an older video but worth a watch
I went back and looked. The price of the crank at that time was $337.00 from Jegs. I agree with your point in general terms. Like I said before if you already own a running 367 that may be a different story. At that time, even if you didn't internal balance the 367 if it needed any crank work including clean and crack check the difference in price of the short blocks is pretty minimal if built using the same parts they used building the two motors. Other situations may be different.
Cause most of the people here would run the same gears and probable stall, 3.23 and 3.55 seem to be the go to gears around here, 3.55 be told as the best compromise, which I don't agree with for some engines it can be, but basically 3.23/3.55 are almost always gonna favor the larger engines especially of similar power. Doubt there's many situations that 3.23/3.55 is over gearing a combo.
I would be disappointed if I spent the money on the 367 they built instead of the 410 they built. Just like they were disappointed when they saw the difference in power for the money spent.I'd be disappoint with the 410 results, say I had a similar 367 in my car now and was asking what to do next top end like Trick Flow or stroker and was talked into stroker and only got those gains, I'd be pissed with the advice. A decent built 360 can make 450-465 lbs-ft, 480 lbs-ft from a 410 ain't very exciting
There powerbands make the same power, not cause of gearing, gearing just trades torque for rpm and rpm for torque, it can't create power, it only helps extract the potential of the powerband you have for the job you want it to do.
If their powerbands make the same power then why would the 367 be easier to hook up?
You could of bought a car with a 367 like that, or back in the day bought a 360 short block and add similar top, point is there's a ton of similar 360 out there now and some are looking to do what's next.
No offense, how many times do I have to say it, it's like you don't understand what a powerband is or why you would need to gear for it.
The video is done from the perspective of rebuilding a 360 with new pistons, rods, camshaft, heads and intake. Then, either using the stock stroke crank or a stroker crank. The results make the choice clear to me. There are lots of guy's out there in similar circumstances who I think would see it that way too.
So then you are using different gears.
I usually ask my customers" What is the application?"
Good for them I could give two F's about their motives, what's that got to do with any of this.
But yes if rebuilding I could see people build a 410 over a 360 to me it's mainly for rpm, gearing and stall reasons. I've never said the 360 is necessary the more practical choice only that has similar performance potential (stall to shift points) same with that 323. But never said that similar performance potential means that there's not other reason to choose one over another.
You did say you would be very disappointed (pissed off) with the 410 build. Why would you be pissed off if you spent the same money on an engine that made clearly more power than the 367?
You need a job as her co-anchor
How are you going to buy a trick flow top end with the money saved from rebuilding the 367 with the stock crank over a $337 stroker crank?
