300 Cfm heads Horsepower

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How much horsepower can be be made on a set of heads that flow 300 Cfm
I know there is a lot of different combo I'm talking about a well setup pump gas
engine that is at the track more then the street
 
On a small block, 300 cfm is a heavy breathing head. I'll let the more experienced members answer the HP question. I would say that a head that size is best for a track only stroker combo.
 
The rules of thumb is 2 hp per cfm but I imagine that's full race engine. Most seem to make 1.7 plus ish for a street/strip engine (reasonable cam/cr)
 
Don't get fooled into numbers. I have heads that make 2.4 hp/cfm.

Put a 300 cfm head on a 9:1 engine. Put the same heads on a 15:1 engine. There are many things that affect how well an engine consumes air.
 
Put a 300 cfm head on a 9:1 engine. Put the same heads on a 15:1 engine. There are many things that affect how well an engine consumes air.

^^This^^ There is no hard and fast rule, too many variables. I've seen 2.2 on a well thought out pump gas stroker.
 
for a v8 it is 2hp/cfm max
No, not max, but it is a good rule of thumb for a very hot street/light but serious race car.

Don't get fooled into numbers. I have heads that make 2.4 hp/cfm.

Put a 300 cfm head on a 9:1 engine. Put the same heads on a 15:1 engine. There are many things that affect how well an engine consumes air.

^^This^^ There is no hard and fast rule, too many variables. I've seen 2.2 on a well thought out pump gas stroker.

X's 2 on Justin & yellow roses post.

Another thing about head flow numbers is that they will change not only with compression changes but also bore size changes.

To nut shell it is difficult and leaves way to much on the table as far as information goes. With a head that flows 300 cfm, in theroy there should be enough there to make 600hp. That would not be a max power output. But that cold be pushing it for a given cubic inch size and/or pump gas fuel.

It is most important NOT to get hung up on a lot of things like head cfm flow. While it is a good indicator of the possible performance it has, a well flowing set on top of a bad combo will create a crappy performing engine.

Do remember there are racers out there in very restricted classes turning out magnificent ET's and trap speeds with stock or mildly ported heads. The focus should be more on execution of what should be an excellent chassis and optimized for the task at hand, be it track or street.

For an interesting look at such, look up member Locomotion and check out his car & site. He is not making a ton of mad house power yet he can clean a lot clocks with there higher dollar and modified parts.
 
Very impressed with locomotions et's
I know there is a lot of veribles with the output
I'm just getting excited about getting mine together
This is my big money build so to speak it added up very quickly
I've had this pile since I was 15 and I'm in my 40s now
Got the whole car down for a makeover and it's coming together
I hoping to make in the 560 hp range and run in the 10.80s
Anyhoo thanks for input folks
 
these eddy heads with 2.02 have gone 10.60s ... probably run a good .15 faster at sea level since the motor was pretty much new back in 2014...

only 10.4 to 1 compression .....takes a good package to make it all happen...
 

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Very impressed with locomotions et's
I know there is a lot of veribles with the output
I'm just getting excited about getting mine together
This is my big money build so to speak it added up very quickly
I've had this pile since I was 15 and I'm in my 40s now
Got the whole car down for a makeover and it's coming together
I hoping to make in the 560 hp range and run in the 10.80s
Anyhoo thanks for input folks

What you're hoping for should be pretty darn easy to do with those heads. Like you said though, lots of variables.
 
How much horsepower can be be made on a set of heads that flow 300 Cfm
I know there is a lot of different combo I'm talking about a well setup pump gas
engine that is at the track more then the street

Anywhere from 250 hp to near 600 hp....
 
I run 10.60's with 610 hp and 290 cfm heads, verified on an engine dyno. I am however at 12.3 ish to 1. Car weighs 2800 with me in it. 10.5 tire car.
 
IIRC my Edelbrocks flowed 294 with a 2.02" valve, when I had them freshened Ryan installed a 2.055" intake valve. On my old 408, 10.9-1 compression they ran 6.57 in the 1/8 at 3260# on pump 93. It should've been in the mid 10s pretty easy.
 
I run 10.60's with 610 hp and 290 cfm heads, verified on an engine dyno. I am however at 12.3 ish to 1. Car weighs 2800 with me in it. 10.5 tire car.

610 hp at 2800 lbs race ready...10.60s?
 
There are way too many variables to even begin to answer.

Just a few missing variables:

Pressure drop?

300 CFM at what lift?

Engine size?

Stroke?

It's just not that simple a question.
 
610 hp at 2800 lbs race ready...10.60s?

10.6X - 10.7X (i guess if we are really splitting hairs, i did dial a 10.80 on a 105 degree day last summer, and I broke out. Lol) pending Weather and track. Glorified street car leaving on the foot brake. Glass bumper, hood, hdk, Wilwoods.

Looks to be about the same times as the duster in your Sig. Did you wanna know more about it? Or was something not adding up? Lol
 

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And the intake manifold cuts cylinder head flow numbers down, approximately 3-7%, if it's ported well. (And depending on the intake manifold type and size.)

Also, remember that you should to know:
-Cylinder head air speed too, not just how much they flow
(bad head can flow big numbers)
-Cylinder head runner size, height x width...
 
Johnny, what were the 1/8 mile incremental's?
 
I run 10.60's with 610 hp and 290 cfm heads, verified on an engine dyno. I am however at 12.3 ish to 1. Car weighs 2800 with me in it. 10.5 tire car.

Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 2800 pounds and HP of 610 is 9.68 seconds and MPH of 139.60 MPH.



Your HP is 463.46 computed from your vehicle weight of 2800 pounds and ET of 10.60 seconds.

Looks like there either the clocks are slow or the dyno is happy....

the 71 Duster at 2900 lbs with a 10.5 to 1 compression motor...mopar 590 cam...eddy ported heads...eddy victor..holley carb...904...TA Converter...4.56 gears..10 x 29 tires..
 
610 hp at 2800 lbs race ready...10.60s?

I was chatting with him in that and he was telling me he would leave on the foot brake, AKA way under The cars/cams optimal rpm range on less than optimal tires and suspension. A less than serious effort but closer to what you would do in the street. AKA no traction and ......

Should be a great scream machine once at speed driving down the hwy.

I have had several set ups like that. (Not as powerful) No track around here. Best we have is back road industrial parks. Asphalt. And not always good.
Having Hwy. power is more of a focus around here over a drag set up or a drag set up that is very street capable.
 
This is a bracket car that I run all summer. Not sure why im leaving the impression I ran it once ever and I have no idea what im talking about? The et calculator I use shows it should run 10.30's. Not sure where you are getting mid 9s. Yes its a foot brake car, so im leaving some on the table. Do you think im saying 610 wheel? No. 600 CRANK on an engine dyno. Maybe that's where the confusion is coming in? Sorry if it thats what I implied.

However we should all digress entierly as this thread has absolutely nothing to do with my bracket car. Sorry if it was taken as wheel hp, and if it wasn't, then sorry apparently my car is such a slow pile. Lol
Just wanted the op to have my example of 290cfm making 600 ish crank hp in my build.
 
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