1965 Barracuda 273 engine 904 Torque flight.ENGINE SWAP....
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Ok my brain came alive.. I do remember guys getting a converters made of they buy the crankshaft adapter..thanks for all you did here tonight at 68 my memory is not the best but I do remember enough to ask the right questions..
You know with the exhaust flange I wonder if I get the part machined if I can get away from exhaust manifold gaskets...
Professor Fate
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In the link I just posted.
It is required because the pocket in the crank flange that supports the convertor nose was increased in size in '68. So in order to use the '65 convertor with the small nose on your '88 crank with the large flange pocket, you need to install the adapter ring.
Failure to do so will result in an unsupported convertor, causing all sorts of vibration and ultimately a cracked flexplate and most likely a trashed front pump in the tranny.
Professor Fate
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You can take it to a machine shop and have them surface grind it, but I've used them as-is without issue.
And I never (well, rarely...) use exhaust gaskets unless it's with headers.
small blocks fit great, it's the exhaust that's the difficult part. only specific years fit and some still need extensive fabrication on the pipes.
stock early V8 manifolds fit great, but finding a set (or more importantly the driver's side) and living with the bottle neck performance wise are what make a lot of people try other manifolds that have their own hurdles (machining, header pipe fab) or just bite the bullet and get headers.
What manifolds did you use? Headers, brand
on the current 65: stock 65 manifolds
previously on early cars i've used: doug's, tti long tubes, spitfires, 340 manifolds and built my own headers.
of all those, the stock early manifolds fit the best. if i was doing headers it'd be: doug's, tti or sanderson (if it was an automatic)
RustyRatRod
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Yeah that's it, but we also have a member, @Badvert65 that sells them as well.
RustyRatRod
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And don't forget The early driver's side manifold had two metal support bars that bolted to the block and to one of the flange bolts to support that long outlet. They are almost always missing and if you leave them off, the outlet WILL crack. Fairly easy to make.
pfft! what do engineers know!?
all kidding aside, i've never seen one in the wild. they're always gone!
also, they could've offset or positioned it a little better, can't tell you how many times i've tried lining up that sucker on the flange only to go: wait a minute!
Man you made my night.. I was hoping no go on the gaskets just another weak point.. This car is a driver pretty much rust free. North Carolina all it's life.. bought it last week on market place. I need another project like a hole in the head..but I couldn't leave it there after checking it out. 800.00 with motor out and all parts in 5 gal buckets..craziest thing I ever saw when I got there. Was stored in a old building he told me for years.
As does @Charrlie_S and I have one “just in case”
RustyRatRod
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Charlie said he was out of them. Like just a day or so ago. He was the first that came to mind. I have one I got from Charlie a year or so ago, but I ain't lettin it go. LOL
Professor Fate
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Sweet deal! Looks like you scored a really solid and complete car- I wish I could find something that nice around here at a price like that!
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If the engine's been apart in buckets for a long time, I would have the manifold surfaces dressed up regardless of using gaskets or not- at sixty years these old girls have been through a lot and a little extra prep saves lots of time and frustration down the road. Most of the time a bed sander with a 120G belt or so is adequate to ensure reasonable flatness, but having a shop surface grind the surfaces ensures everything is flat and true.
That's the only reason I bought it.. When I went to look at it I was really set back. Most I seen threw the years are all rot bombs.. When I was young I would take on rust but I learned to start with a better car.. takes so much time to weld panels and body filler..
I was out in the garage checking the manifold fit.. you are right on with dressing up the manifold surfaces. They need it.
I been looking on line for a diagram that will show me where the exhaust manifold braces go on driver side. One thing I don't want to do is crack one.. I saw what they are going for on eBay last night...Any idea where I might find a diagram......
Professor Fate
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Hopefully they're in one of your buckets 'O parts...
In a pinch I have made these out of scraps of 1/2" EMT conduit- I refuse to pay obscene Ebay pricing for something so basic, and that will never actually be seen once everything is installed!
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check this crazy scene daddio:
also, get thee to mymopar.com can download a factory manual.
ETA: gah! tree'd by quick draw mc graw PF!
also, get thee to mymopar.com can download a factory manual.
ETA: gah! tree'd by quick draw mc graw PF!
Professor Fate
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Great minds think alike!
Awesome Pic.. been looking in my buckets I found one lol. Thanks so much.. without you guys I would have put the car together but it wouldn't have been correct..
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