1971 Dodge Demon Sold for $126,500 on Mecum

[4spdragtop]

I agree with you whole heartedly Al. My comment was in general.
If you had the budget, and wanted a better than new vintage Mopar, Allan is your guy. I touched base with him doing my 69 vert, but I couldn't afford it.

You're right Steve.

But I just couldn't just ignore this and have Alan's work called junk.

I have never met the man but have conversed with him a few times over the years and he is a "stand-up" guy.

He is a Mopar specialist, has an incredible eye for detail and is worth every penny that's spent with him to restore a car.

And... He's a Canadian LOL !!

Cheers!!

 

[LO23M8B]

You're right Steve.

But I just couldn't just ignore this and have Alan's work called junk.

I have never met the man but have conversed with him a few times over the years and he is a "stand-up" guy.

He is a Mopar specialist, has an incredible eye for detail and is worth every penny that's spent with him to restore a car.

And... He's a Canadian LOL !!

Cheers!!

I never called his work out. I never seen the car in person. It's the 3 stooges doing all the yapping. I just said it wasn't for me and I would never pay that kind of money for something that started out like that or any 340 A-Body. I just don't like or do rust. I'll bet he did a fantastic job, I'm sure it did look better than new. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,..............'''''''''''''''''!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[72bluNblu]

I never called his work out. I never seen the car in person. It's the 3 stooges doing all the yapping. I just said it wasn't for me and I would never pay that kind of money for something that started out like that or any 340 A-Body. I just don't like or do rust. I'll bet he did a fantastic job, I'm sure it did look better than new. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,..............'''''''''''''''''!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You 100% called his work out, you literally said the car was junk, and then confirmed that specifically.

Gosh, if only we could look at what you said a couple pages ago…

I AIN't buying junk at any price. Lots of good Hemi cars way cheaper than this.

So you think this car is junk then?

Yep, to me.

Clearly you’re just jealous. A guy that can start with a car at that level and turn it into the Demon that was sold has 100x the skills of someone that has to start with a rust free car. Hell if the car is rust free just drive the thing, no restoration needed.

 

[RustyRatRod]

You 100% called his work out, you literally said the car was junk, and then confirmed that specifically.

Gosh, if only we could look at what you said a couple pages ago…







Clearly you’re just jealous. A guy that can start with a car at that level and turn it into the Demon that was sold has 100x the skills of someone that has to start with a rust free car. Hell if the car is rust free just drive the thing, no restoration needed.

100%

 

[junkyardhero]

oh wow... would you look at that...

blow hard know-nothing contradicts himself in the same thread. you always hate to see it happen.

(NB: dear reader, we do not in fact, hate to see it happen)

 

[LO23M8B]

I said the car was junk and it was. Not when he finished it. How many multimillion-dollar cars have you built? How many $126,500 cars have you built. I'm not jealous of anybody's work. I love great work. If they take pride in their work great. Guess your mama never taught you about respect. Or you just didn't get it. There's a lot of rusted up junk up here. Just visit the junk yard, Gee I wonder why they call it that?

 

[72bluNblu]

I said the car was junk and it was. Not when he finished it. How many multimillion-dollar cars have you built? How many $126,500 cars have you built. I'm not jealous of anybody's work. I love great work. If they take pride in their work great. Guess your mama never taught you about respect. Or you just didn't get it. There's a lot of rusted up junk up here. Just visit the junk yard, Gee I wonder why they call it that?

Please. You’ve shown no respect to anyone in this thread and you certainly don’t deserve any from me.

The final sale price of a car doesn’t necessarily represent the skill of the person doing the restoration or even the quality of the restoration itself. I’ve seen cars restored to much higher levels than some “million dollar car” that will never see that kind of money simply because of the make and model of the car that was restored, and I’ve seen million dollar cars that clearly hadn’t been restored by real professionals but got that money just because of some dumb option that made them “rare” and a couple of investors pretending to be cars guys that wee bidding against each other.

If you were truly a skilled professional, you’d understand that. And again, if you won’t take on a project that requires that level of work, well, you don’t have those skills. If you’ve never done it you’ve got no clue what it takes.

 

[RustyRatRod]

I said the car was junk and it was. Not when he finished it. How many multimillion-dollar cars have you built? How many $126,500 cars have you built. I'm not jealous of anybody's work. I love great work. If they take pride in their work great. Guess your mama never taught you about respect. Or you just didn't get it. There's a lot of rusted up junk up here. Just visit the junk yard, Gee I wonder why they call it that?

Go away.

 

[Super-Cuda]

I said the car was junk and it was. Not when he finished it. How many multimillion-dollar cars have you built? How many $126,500 cars have you built. I'm not jealous of anybody's work. I love great work. If they take pride in their work great. Guess your mama never taught you about respect. Or you just didn't get it. There's a lot of rusted up junk up here. Just visit the junk yard, Gee I wonder why they call it that?

The car wasn't junk.

Thats the point you dont get.

Like dozens and dozens of cars on this site, it was a diamond in the rough and the owner could see that.

He invested his money, asking for the updates/changes he wanted, and Alan Gallant executed the restoration to perfection.

A beautiful car that any real Mopar owner would love to own.

And, by the way, you aren,t the only one on here who has worked on multimilliondollar cars or built a car at $126,500.00

 

[RustyRatRod]

The car wasn't junk.

Thats the point you dont get.

Like dozens and dozens of cars on this site, it was a diamond in the rough and the owner could see that.

He invested his money, asking for the updates/changes he wanted, and Alan Gallant executed the restoration to perfection.

A beautiful car that any real Mopar owner would love to own.

And, by the way, you aren,t the only one on here who has worked on multimilliondollar cars or built a car at $126,500.00

No he's not. I've helped build a few myself.

 

[Super-Cuda]

That's really cool! And clearly they did a very nice job creating a beautiful car. Not an all-original car but a very, very nice car.

I don't know the company(s) that did all the work but, given that level of work, I'm 100% certain the owner had more than the $112k-ish he/she would have netted for the sale. All that bodywork/panel prepping, sheetmetal replacing, underside painting, interior replacement, engine rebuild, 4-speed conversion, etc, etc. Yep, LOTS of $$$$'s!

Given my 71 show pony Demon and what it took to get it to the level it is, that one took a whole bunch more $$$$ to achieve its final state!

Hmmm...now where did I put the title to mine and when is Mecum coming back....
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Demonx2,

Through all the "noise" of this thread I forgot to add something.

Your Demon looks fabulous!

Do you happen to have a build thread?

 

[Demonx2]

Demonx2,

Through all the "noise" of this thread I forgot to add something.

Your Demon looks fabulous!

Do you happen to have a build thread?

Thank you. I did not make a thread on it. Perhaps I should have as I sure enjoy reading other people's build threads. Some really great cars on here! My 71 Demon was done over a period of a little over 2-1/2 years. It had to wait to get assembly started until I finished building the avatar 72 Demon which took about 14 months. I found it much easier to build a "hotrod" (my avatar) than one of these "original as I could make it" resto's! SO many little details and you have to be quite careful around the paint. And I know what I have into this one so that Plum Crazy purple one that sold did not turn a profit!! (Note: I did not paint this. WAY too little talent for such a car!)

I'm in the middle of doing a complete sheet metal resto on my 69 Charger so maybe I should start one for it over on FBBO. Hmmm....

 

[Super-Cuda]

Thank you. I did not make a thread on it. Perhaps I should have as I sure enjoy reading other people's build threads. Some really great cars on here! My 71 Demon was done over a period of a little over 2-1/2 years. It had to wait to get assembly started until I finished building the avatar 72 Demon which took about 14 months. I found it much easier to build a "hotrod" (my avatar) than one of these "original as I could make it" resto's! SO many little details and you have to be quite careful around the paint. And I know what I have into this one so that Plum Crazy purple one that sold did not turn a profit!!
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I'm in the middle of doing a complete sheet metal resto on my 69 Charger so maybe I should start one for it over on FBBO. Hmmm....
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Nice!!

Great time to service/rebuild the rear window regulator.

BTW, looks like a power window car.

 

[Oldmanmopar]

I looked at the listing on the window Post#4 listed 4 spd and then C16 console.

 

[Super-Cuda]

I looked at the listing on the window Post#4 listed 4 spd and then C16 console.

I looked at the fender tag codes attached to the car.

Everything that appears on the tag is how the car was originally built.

The finished car took some liberties adding hood scoops,spoiler, 4 speed and an interior change to white. Also the console , which appeared on the tag was left out.

Anyone spending $126,000.00 would have checked out the build sheet, the fender tag and the restoration process.

This is essentially a brand new 1971 Demon.

 

[72bluNblu]

I looked at the listing on the window Post#4 listed 4 spd and then C16 console.

So?

The console was on the fender tag, and so was the automatic transmission.

The information on the window in post #4 doesn't say the 4 speed is original. It has one now, and it had the console because it was originally an automatic. I don't see anything that said the 4 speed or the white interior were original, and that's been covered MULTIPLE times. The guy that owned the car wanted those things, simple as that.

 

[Oldmanmopar]

So?

The console was on the fender tag, and so was the automatic transmission.

The information on the window in post #4 doesn't say the 4 speed is original. It has one now, and it had the console because it was originally an automatic. I don't see anything that said the 4 speed or the white interior were original, and that's been covered MULTIPLE times. The guy that owned the car wanted those things, simple as that.

So? What! I only read the C16 after seeing 4 spd. Did you notice he put the stripes on the car wrong. Quote Master

 

[Super-Cuda]

So? What! I only read the C16 after seeing 4 spd. Did you notice he put the stripes on the car wrong. Quote Master

I checked and I think you are correct about the stripes.

Heres a blueprint that shows correct installation.

But I don't understand the points you are trying to make about this car.

Nowhere does it say this was a concours correct restoration so why are you bent on cutting this car to pieces?

This car was built to the owners specifications and all thats been stated by the people responding here is that Alan Gallant did a phenominal job on this Demon.

It was at an auction, anticipating a selling price of 120,000.00 plus and it sold for exactly what was expected.

Are you trying to imply you can do better?

If so, show us a build you did to the same level selling for the same money and if it is better, I guarantee members will post the same kind of positive comments as well.

Personally, its one of the nicest Demons I have ever seen!

Original Demon at Mr. Norms.

 

[72bluNblu]

So? What! I only read the C16 after seeing 4 spd. Did you notice he put the stripes on the car wrong. Quote Master

Oh here we go with the stripes again. Like every original Demon left the factory with the stripes perfectly placed exactly in the same spot. Please. The factory couldn’t even get the QUARTERS in exactly the same spot on every car, let alone the stripes.

Plus it’s like the carburetor. Ok, the stripes are wrong and it offends your delicate sensibilities so much you can’t live with it. So take the stripes off and re-apply them to your standards. Might take an afternoon?

But no, gotta whine about it instead.

 

[Oldmanmopar]

I checked and I think you are correct about the stripes.

Heres a blueprint that shows correct installation.

But I don't understand the points you are trying to make about this car.

Nowhere does it say this was a concours correct restoration so why are you bent on cutting this car to pieces?

This car was built to the owners specifications and all thats been stated by the people responding here is that Alan Gallant did a phenominal job on this Demon.

It was at an auction, anticipating a selling price of 120,000.00 plus and it sold for exactly what was expected.

Are you trying to imply you can do better?

If so, show us a build you did to the same level selling for the same money and if it is better, I guarantee members will post the same kind of positive comments as well.

Personally, its one of the nicest Demons I have ever seen!

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I originally posted the stripe installation pictures a while ago. Personally I think the car looks great. I love the purple and white combo. I only pointed out Items I see that were not correctly done and it still brought big dollars.

Do I have pictures of cars that I have done ? Yes, But for myself and for customers. I never would fix a badly rusted body for resale. I had a rust free Duster that I did and sold Recently. This was at 70 years old. It was a rust free race car from the 70's

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Ii have other rust free bodies. But I never patched and completely finished rusted cars for resale. I repaired many cars for others that I myself would have scrapped if they were mine. I had a rusted one That I couldn't bring myself to finish and sold it as a body.
I started in the early 80's with B-bodies and A-bodies. If they had rust i stripped them for the parts I have today.

I built this car in the 80's it was an automatic car, non air grabber. I sold it . I saw the car 3 years ago at Carlisle with Different numbers and a data plate for a 4 spd air graber car . They insisted the car was from the south west. They opened the trunk and I proved it was my car.., They were dumb founded

The plumb Demon is a beautiful car. Was the bidder aware of the extent of the repair? Starting with an original rust free body is crucial if your taking it to auction unless you show a large photo for bidders of the major repairs that were done.

Yes I have a large photo album of cars I have been through. GM and Mopar. My favorites I did are 67 Firebird 400 4 spd. , 69 Coronet R/T 440 4 spd., 71 demon GSS auto

 

[Oldmanmopar]

Oh here we go with the stripes again. Like every original Demon left the factory with the stripes perfectly placed exactly in the same spot. Please. The factory couldn’t even get the QUARTERS in exactly the same spot on every car, let alone the stripes.

Plus it’s like the carburetor. Ok, the stripes are wrong and it offends your delicate sensibilities so much you can’t live with it. So take the stripes off and re-apply them to your standards. Might take an afternoon?

But no, gotta whine about it instead.

I just thought if your spending that much time on a restoration of a car you should have at least took and saved pictures of the stripes. They are not Just a little off. They are about a 1/2 inch to low. The handle should be white. The stripes never followed the body lines on the Demons. also the original stripes came with the fuel opening cut out. So you couldn't install them on the wrong side like many do and left to right they are different.

The car looks great like I said. But it does have its issues for a 125,000 dollar car. If that was a GM car like a Yenko at auction the critics would have caught that right away filming the walk around , Graveyard Carz Did the same thing to the GSS.

 

[junkyardhero]

sometimes the lesson is simply what we thought, was wrong. our assumptions and beliefs may have been incorrect.

 

[72bluNblu]

I originally posted the stripe installation pictures a while ago. Personally I think the car looks great. I love the purple and white combo. I only pointed out Items I see that were not correctly done and it still brought big dollars.

Do I have pictures of cars that I have done ? Yes, But for myself and for customers. I never would fix a badly rusted body for resale. I had a rust free Duster that I did and sold Recently. This was at 70 years old. It was a rust free race car from the 70's ave Ii have other rust free bodies. But I never patched and completely finished rusted cars for resale. I repaired many cars for others that I myself would have scrapped if they were mine. I had a rusted one That I couldn't bring myself to finish and sold it as a body.
I started in the early 80's with B-bodies and A-bodies. If they had rust i stripped them for the parts I have today.

I built this car in the 80's it was an automatic car, non air grabber. I sold it . I saw the car 3 years ago at Carlisle with Different numbers and a data plate for a 4 spd air graber car . They insisted the car was from the south west. They opened the trunk and I proved it was my car.., They were dumb founded

The plumb Demon is a beautiful car. Was the bidder aware of the extent of the repair? Starting with an original rust free body is crucial if your taking it to auction unless you show a large photo for bidders of the major repairs that were done.

Yes I have a large photo album of cars I have been through. GM and Mopar. My favorites I did are 67 Firebird 400 4 spd. , 69 Coronet R/T 440 4 spd., 71 demon GSS auto

LOL!

"I would never fit a badly rusted body for resale".

Why not? It's literally all just sheet metal and spot welds. A competent metal worker can repair a rusted car to the same level of quality as the factory did. Hell, given the factory level of quality, especially of the factory welds, it is not all that difficult to EXCEED the level of quality turned out by the factory. The factory specs are published. With a frame table, a decent spot welder, and the appropriate level of skill and patience there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with repairing a rusty car. You can make it just as structurally sound as it was when it left the factory, or better, if you know what you're doing.

Implying that the guy is doing something wrong by restoring a rusty car because you wouldn't doesn't give you the moral high ground. Alan Gallant clearly has the skills to do that kind of work, the fact that you're trying to claim moral superiority because you won't ( or maybe CAN'T) do that level of work just brings to light your lack of understanding. Saying that you wouldn't restore that car says everything about you, your skill and level of understanding. It says nothing about his.

Yeah, we get it. You've parted dozens of restorable cars because you either lack the skills to fix them properly or decided you couldn't do that amount of work and still make a profit. That doesn't make you better.

By all means, don't take on a car that requires work at a higher level than what you're capable of doing yourself. But just because you couldn't repair a car that's that far gone and bring it back to the factory level of quality (or better) doesn't mean someone else can't. The Demon we're all talking about here is clearly put together at least as well as anything the factory EVER did, and realistically it's pretty clear that the quality of that car exceeds what was rolling off the factory assembly lines a lot of the time.

I just thought if your spending that much time on a restoration of a car you should have at least took and saved pictures of the stripes. They are not Just a little off. They are about a 1/2 inch to low. The handle should be white. The stripes never followed the body lines on the Demons. also the original stripes came with the fuel opening cut out. So you couldn't install them on the wrong side like many do and left to right they are different.

The car looks great like I said. But it does have its issues for a 125,000 dollar car. If that was a GM car like a Yenko at auction the critics would have caught that right away filming the walk around , Graveyard Carz Did the same thing to the GSS.

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You must have missed the /6 to 340 clone that sold for $61k. A 6 figure A-body doesn't have to be perfect anymore, the market has changed. Hell there's resto-mods that are getting more than 100% concourse level restorations now. Nice to see that some folks actually put the experience of driving these cars above a couple of stamped numbers on a fender or VIN tag finally.

And yeah, it's just a stripe. If you'd rather ***** about it than fix it, well, that says far more about you than it does the level of restoration of the car.

 

[Super-Cuda]

I just thought if your spending that much time on a restoration of a car you should have at least took and saved pictures of the stripes. They are not Just a little off. They are about a 1/2 inch to low. The handle should be white. The stripes never followed the body lines on the Demons. also the original stripes came with the fuel opening cut out. So you couldn't install them on the wrong side like many do and left to right they are different.

The car looks great like I said. But it does have its issues for a 125,000 dollar car. If that was a GM car like a Yenko at auction the critics would have caught that right away filming the walk around , Graveyard Carz Did the same thing to the GSS.

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".... If that was a GM car like a Yenko at auction the critics would have caught that right away ..."


And there's the rub oldmanmopar.

It was never intended to be a numbers matching resto.

It was just meant to be a very well restored Demon, done to the owners requirements and something that could be used as intended.

You think it should have been perfect and as 72bluNblyu stated, they were never perfect from the factory.

There's way too much emphasis on this "numbers matching, factory correct " mantra in the old car hobby .

For the most part, that attitude is driving people away , especially the younger set as they can't afford or don't want a car that belongs in a museum and not driven as it should be.

Its ok for your car to not be perfect, no matter how much you spent on it, just go enjoy it.

Here's a great video on this very topic from a very talented, internationally known metal shaper and restoration artist that lives in my province.

Excuse our strange accent LOL !!

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[70SwingerGuy]

Here's a great video on this very topic from a very talented, internationally known metal shaper and restoration artist that lives in my province.

Excuse our strange accent LOL !!

Im from Canada also and I cant place that accent! What province? Has to be far eastern for sure Id guess