440- Engine oil dip stick

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  1. No rush

    No rush Well-Known Member

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    Hi,
    I have a 440 and I have changed the engine oil dip stick to a Milodon 22070 (lost the one that come with it). Since fitting the engine to my 74 dart I have had to change the sump to a Charlie oil pan due to having an alterkation front end.
    I have only just noticed the Milodon dip stick doesn't have any markings on it.
    So how do I know how much oil to put in?
    Is there anyone I can contact or should I order a different dip stick?

    Thanks in advance

    Below are links the the sump and my original post.
    https://charliesoilpans.com/images/OilPans/Images/Pan14.jpg

    (74 dodge dart sump clearance)
     
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    I always put in what the pan manufacture says it holds and mark the dipstick. So in my 7 qaurt pan I put 7 in it and marked the dipstick which is at the add line on my Mr Gasket dipstick
     
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      famous bob mopar misfit FABO Gold Member

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      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS
       
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      Thanks guys.
      Will try and get a hold of Charlie and see what they reckons

      Cheers
       
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      they said it all depends on what the engine builder wants.
      I would of thought no matter how big the sump is the fill mark would be the same?
      Any other suggestions?
       
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      A deeper pan allows you to run the oil level lower. Benefits are less windage, less air being whipped into the oil and more hp .Example: If you have a stock shallow 4 quart pan, you better run 4 quarts in it. If you have a deep 7 quart pan, you can run 5 or 6 quarts in it and enjoy the benefits of the lower level while still having a greater volume of oil than stock.
       
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      In the end I just bought a stock 440 dip stick and fitted that.
      Filled the engine to the full mark and swapped the Milodon dip stick back in and marked it where the oil was.

      Haven't starter the engine yet, still a few weeks/ months away so fingers crossed.
       
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      Curious, when you filled to the full mark with the stock dip stick, did it come out to the pan capacity rating?
       
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      Charlie oil pans were very, very difficult do deal with and wouldn't tell me what the capacity rating is or even the size of the pan. Would not recommend buying a oil pan of them after my experience.

      Measured the dimensions of the pan and it came out to 11odd qts
      Ended up putting in 8.5L (9qts) and I think once I start it it will take an extra quart.
       
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