6.1 Hemi into 72 Demon March 2018

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    Thank you BP for the feedback. At almost 60 years old this forum is literally my first foray into social media. Frankly it scared the crap out of me. It is quite intimidating at first. My children and grandchildren all use face book but I decided early on that was not for me. But I felt to stay in touch and at very least quasi in tune I needed to adapt to some newer things. The real catalyst was changing my Cuda to EFI. It forced me to utilize the web for knowledge. Wife laughs at me continually for being very tech savvy professionally and so Neanderthal personally. It dawned on me that I could adopt the same Thirst for knowledge in both arenas. I love to teach and am always in hope that someone new to the hobby is gaining something from the posts. Clearly none of us do this for the money as it takes us all years and years for each build. I bit different to TV where the transformation takes a couple of weeks. Like most it is just something I do on the side and do not have unlimited resources or time. Life gets in the way pretty regular. Thanks again for the feedback and have a great year.
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    Nice tool box as well.
     
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      So this weekend I had a Bantam hockey tournament so time on car was limited. I did however attempt to install the P/U tube and change out the windage tray. Epic fail! When you do this conversion you have to get a different oil pan which is a center pickup vs the factory forward pickup. As the factory pan creates an impedance with the rack and pinion setup. My K frame is an HDK so I have lots of room for headers etc. very nicely built by the way. So anyway I get the factory windage tray off and make sure new one fits etc. I bolt the P/U tube in place and it is a perfect fit....... well except for the whole pointed outside the oil pan part. At this point I am thinking clearly I am an idiot and it must mount somewhere else. Nope, it is in right spot. The only conclusion is that mother Milodon had a jig malfunction during manufacture as the part numbers indicate I have the correct part. Did I mention I waited all summer for the stupid part. Being a welder my solution to everything is to slash and weld. I was so frustrated this summer over the delay I was going to slash and fabricate my own from donor parts. Hemi Denny talked me off the ledge and implored me to be patient. It pays to have wise friends!

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      Looks good Sublime one, will you be ready for paint in time?
       
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      That sucks. I went with a Ram 5.7 pan and pickup tube. It doesn't hang crazy low but then again I haven't slid it under the car yet to get a true feeling for what the clearance will be
       
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      So as always Hemi Denny to the rescue. Did I mention he has forgot more about Mopar than I will ever know. Turns out my donor car 2010 SRT is a perfect match for the P/U tube I ordered and have should be no issue at all. Wait for it......... Yep Mother Mopar in her infinite wisdom put a "pre" 2010 block in the donor car pre 09 to be exact turns out pre 09s need a different oil P/U tube then 2010 result of clocking on fittings. So I am now anxiously awaiting my third oil P/U tube.
       
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      On plus side I got the drive shaft sorted out! Finally a win! The shaft will have to be a hybrid of old and new style fittings, or so I thought. With a bit of research turns out GM utilizes exact same coupling device for their rigs and in turn created a need for an adaptor! Picture attached, takes the funky European coupling and transforms it into antiquated American U joint technology! Add a slip joint and there ya are! Coolest thing ever! It is literally a perfect fit.

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        That’s exactly what I used.Works perfect!

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          So this evening I installed the drive shaft, had to abort last night as I did not have long enough M12 bolts. 1/2 American is close but just a bit big. The German tranny yoke was quite demanding with its bolt reqs. Suffice to say it is in. Funny how a single easy part to install can really motivate you. I got all jacked up putting in the drive shaft. Who knows I might even make this thing run yet.

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            Well from what I have seen that you have done so far Sublime one it will work. good job my friend.
             
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            Looking good sublime!I was really wondering what I was going to do with my driveshaft too and stumbled on the Sonnax adapter on a Chevy website.It is a nice piece and worked out great.A lot better than spending $1200 on a Driveshaftspecialty piece.Your build is coming along nicely
             
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              I find it hilarious you go through all this trouble to get a modern mill in there and then let it shape through cherry bombs
               
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              Hah! What can I say? I have a sentimental attachment to them! To add insult to injury I am running a HDK front end with coil overs and rack and pinion steering on wilwood disc brakes, no technology spared. The backend you ask? Why air shocks and drums of course! The boys talked me off the ledge or I would have put fender flares on her as well. I figure as easy as it is for me to change exhaust why not see how she sounds with tried and true advanced technology Cherry Bombs! I run fancy exhaust on my Scat Pack and while it sounds snarly and nasty nothing says retro like headers and cherry bombs! If you can't set off a car alarm or two on the way you have done something terribly wrong!
               
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                So today I got the booster and master cylinder mounted, as well as the pedal base located on inside under dash. Some may recall the pix of me and Fred his boy took in my shop here awhile back. I am an avid gym rat and have lifted weights for 40 plus years. I am not a small guy! To fold up and work under the dash suks for me. As I could not find a yoga master dwarf I folded up and took the plunge.
                As a welder we wear the funny little caps for a reason. You spin it and cover your ear with the soft bill to keep sparks out of your ear. Yep I did not spin it and got a spark down my ear. There is nothing like sizzling inside your ear. The pedals are simply to long to fit under the dash so I cut them off and will sort out final configuration at a later date. They are quite thick so as I was cutting them I smelled smoke, figured it was under dash stuff.
                Turns out it was me, now picture the aforementioned biscuit sized guy in a yoga position under the dash attempting to put himself out. Instantly raised up banged head on dash, tried to spin to get fire on top and got caught on sharp edge from unfinished tunnel. Spin other way and hit the paddle switch for the grinder that was unceremoniously dropped earlier.
                Got grinder shutdown before it ate me then decided to put fire out in place. Got it out. Crawled out of car, shut off music and walked away from the car. Took hound in and made a drink. Screw a bunch of hot rodding today, I am going to watch football. Picture is my ruined sweatshirt.

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                  LOL Sublime one glad you made it out alive and didn't catch Hemi on fire in the posses.
                  You did good today so I agree time for a Bourbon and don't forget to give Hemi a treat also.
                   
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                  Thanks! Tomorrow will be better
                   
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                    I can't remember how many times I set myself on fire but damn lucky you and I are still alive.
                    Got my drink so cheers my friend.
                     
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