65 Barracuda Gasser + 1956 325 Dodge Hemi Build

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Fstfish66, my dad got the NASCAR heads from Carl Kiekhaefer founder of Mercury Marine Outboard motors. Carl raced Chrysler 300's and Also a few Dodge D500's around 1955 to 1957. I believe the Kiekhaefer team won 2 championships, he was the first to use team drivers and matching racing suits, along with other improvements that NASCAR follows today... He changed the sport.
These heads were cast in his foundry with larger valves, larger intake ports, and larger and rectangular exhaust ports (not round like factory heads). They don't have a water passageway that goes thru the intake manifold, so when they were used you really had to warm the engine up first, and have a carb plate insulator under the carb. Like mercury marine, we are from Wisconsin too, and my dad picked then up from Carl in 1961 long after they stopped racing NASCAR. The heads were just sitting idle on a shelf. If I find the side by side picture showing the factory heads and these heads, I will post it.
It's just that Chip has really peaked my interest in this motor instead of the 340 I was thinking of using. It would be a show stopper in a 1938 Plymouth P-6 Coupe

very koool,,,, i also have a dodge hemi in my street rod 1940 dodge coupe
 
The hemi all the way!! It definitely would have the wow factor and I can't wait until I'm able to hear and respond to comments like:
"I remember when my (dad, brother, grandpa) bought one just like this back in '65......." or "Yeah, that engine was special order from the dealer." Should be fun for sure.

Definitely agree with you Chip. And hey, LOVE the six-pack setup on the D500. I don't think you will be disappointed in the power department. Seems like I remember my dads had a lot of torque in stock form with only the original 4bbl.
 
SpikeWills69, I hope you are right. I think the little Dodge will be a lot of fun and I'm sure it'll be torqued -up!
I personally have never owned a tri-power car, so I thought it would be a neat set up for the hemi. Definitely looks cool on there.
Hopefully we'll have some fire in her by this weekend, Lord willin'.
I will try and post a video of the startup.......can't wait.
Thx
 
Chip! Do Your Rochester 2G carbs have progressive linkage? I was looking at redoing my D500 and a 6 pack type setup would be an interesting twist. Do you remember what other carbs would fit the manifold
 
while I was away Rob worked diligently and accomplished a bunch. New hard lines for the trans cooler, hard lines for the fuel, complete overhaul of the brake lines, alternator mock-up and tons of other little stuff that take up a lot of time.
I took a short video last night, kinda a dry run for the startup......I'll try and post that now and see if it works.
The tri-power setup does have progressive linkage. There are a number of styles out there for linkage......I think I have a couple of pictures posted showing the linkage. There are two different tripower intakes available through Hot Heads and some other vendors. One has the early three bolt pattern and the one I have for the Rochester 2GC carbs. There are a ton of adaptors available for different carb bases too.
We are getting closer!

I tried posting the video and it won't.....too large, so I'll have to investigate what else can be done. In the mean time, here are some pics......
 

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From some of the pictures you can see that there is not very much room between the balanced damper and the front spring cross member. I need a pretty special damper pulley to solve the space issue without some heavy re-do of the cross member. It is a pulley, single v-groove, that was made by Moroso (5") a while ago. Or for that matter any pulley that is very narrow (one groove, one inch thick or less) and would bolt directly to the face of the damper without an offset.
I have attached pictures of the pulley I need.
If you have one laying around and want to get rid of it let me know! Thanks.......
 

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what is that small altenator from ?? and whats the wiring like looking koool so far,,,,
 
FstFsh66, my, my, you are observant! The "mini" alternator is a Denso one wire hook up. I was at the mopar meet at Norwalk last year and saw it on a great looking dragster......took some pics and started doing some investigation. It seems these are popular with the drag racers and street rod crowd. You can find them under a couple of different names at some of the "big" parts suppliers and the prices are anywhere from $250 -$350 each. I did some searching and found mine for $75. Same in every aspect except the price. It weighs about 3 pounds and looks neat.
Go on ebay and search "Denso one wire mini alternator"....you'll get a bunch of hits. Denso also has a great website for checking out all the details of this little baby. Most of my drag racing buddies are running these now and they are working great. Hope this helps!
 
Well, even though we have some issues to deal with yet, we decided to fire her up! First turn of the key and "It's alive!!!!" Ran for about 15 seconds, no problems.
We still have to solve the pulley problem, but we ran the new throttle cable and made a fire-her-up throttle bracket. Haven't put the radiator in or anything until the pulleys/brackets/alignment is done. It was so good to hear the rumble and feel the ground shake......I'm still smiling. A couple of pics, one with the start up smoke in the air......
 

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I'm still fiddling with my pulley alignment on my A/C delete system. its shimmed too far back. Good luck man! I'm waiting to see her all finished
 
Thanks, I'm finding a couple of different arrangements for pulleys to try out. I don't know what we'll settle on, but it's just one of those things that has to get done to wrap it up.......It won't be long now!
 
We've been working a lot on all the little unseen things that need to be done to button her up. Just finished making the adjustable brackets for the alternator. Used some 1/2" hex aluminum bar stock and have a LH heim on one and a RH heim on the other end. Pretty neat looking, I think. (pictures attached)

Also discovered that the aluminum radiator that I had will not work with the old hemi inlet and discharge points........so after some searching I found (I think) a good fit. Just ordered it and should have it in a couple of days. That straight axle weldment is giving us fits on a couple of things, but we'll get it figured out.
Spent quite a bit of time figuring out the belt alignment and getting all the pulleys shimmed out and in synch. I'm going to get some different belt lengths and widths and see how that comes together.

So, while it looks like we are standing still, Rob and I are spending hours everyday scratching our heads and staying focused.
 

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Some more good was accomplished today. Finally got the alternator and belt arrangement all figured out and in line. Ran the one wire hookup for the alternator to the power on the starter. Worked great and had 14 volts on a brief startup. Got the return springs for the throttle linkage done. Most of the little items are now complete and functioning. We wait for the new radiator to complete it and get some real run time on the new motor. Soon, very soon!
 

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Received the radiator from the UPS man today, so we spent about 2 hours fittin' and fabbin' to get the right placement and fit. Put water in her and away we went. Quickly discovered all the bolts we missed with sealant.......weeping water from a few places. These old hemis have a ton of bolts into water passages.
Rob did a great job of fabbing up the adaptor brackets for the new radiator and without much hassle it is in and lookin good! You can see that the new radiator (bottom) outlet just barely fits beneath the front spring crossmember....whew!
FYI: I found this all aluminum radiator, after a bit of searching, that was nearly a direct bolt-in. It is a three row with some great looking tig work on it......for under $170.00 shipped to the house...not bad.
Here are some pictures from today.
I shot a 4 minute video too but I can't seem to get it to load on the video section.....anybody know how to make a video into a "URL"?
Best, Chip
 

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Suff, the rebuild was pretty stock.....except for the solid lifter cam re-grind. We used stock 325 pistons, so the c.r. should be 9.25 to 1. I have to admit though that the car sounds pretty healthy with open headers!
Just an update too. During some run time yesterday we noticed the (new) aftermarket coil starting to arc and shortly thereafter lost all spark to the engine. Everytime we tried to fire it after that it would arc fiercely with no spark to the engine. On closer examination of the coil there is a pin-hole sized break in the insulation around the coil top post and the old saying is true.....electricity follows the path of least resistance! The spark is pretty impressive! But we are dead in the water until the replacement gets here.........
We'll spend the down time cleaning up a few of the other loose ends, Oh well.
Best, Chip
 
all the intake bolts and top row of exhaust bolts go in to water jackets on the early hemis,, it looks killer,,,,
 
yes, we were out in the garage working again today and yes it is very hot....but hey, we waited all winter for this weather right?

We had a problem with the back carb, so decided it would be good to pull it off and see whats up. Rob took it apart and found the problem, fixed it and he did some other things to cure the lean condition. Also looked at the center carb and included some mods there too. My friend Willie made up a awesome relay and wiring for the electric fan, so we got that installed and powered up too. More little stuff out of the way and just does so much to bring it all together.

Couple of pics from today and one of two of the hardest working, sweatiest guys on the planet....God Bless 'em......Willie on the left and Rob on the right. I couldn't have done this without you! Thanks........
 

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As the pictures will attest we spent a few more hours thrashing. After putting about 20 good minutes of run time on the little hemi it was time to change the oil, run the valve lash and cut the break in filter open to have a look. The inerds of the filter were spotless and the valve adjustment resulted in no more than .002 on a couple of settings........so sweet.
We still have a lean condition on the center carb and now that pretty much everything else is done, we'll address that next. And yes we had to undo the master cylinder to get the valve cover off! Hopefully a mopar unit will solve that problem.
Some pics from today........
 

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Well the last post was a few weeks ago and you all probably thought I was too busy out driving the Barracuda than to update the post.
Yeah, well we been making "lemonade" again and the following pictures will attest to our travails.
The last post I was sooooo very close to taking the Lil Cuda home and then a combination of things caused a re-do of the engine. While it wasn't anything catastrophic, to do the fix we had to take the engine out.
Rob was really never satisfied with the amount of oil we were getting to the top end of the rockers. That coupled with solving the lean condition in the carbs AND the (unknown at the time) fact that the cam bearings were restricting main galley flow........whew!
We bent an exhaust valve (#5) and scorched another. To do it right we had to pull the engine completely out to get to the cam and find the problem. So by the time we got the new valves, had the heads re-done and got the new cam bearings we checked the complete motor over and a good friend grooved the cam journals (since the bearings are not). All the bearings were/are spotless, pistons were fine, ring wear pattern was great.....all good. Reassembled the engine and this morning began putting it back into the car at 8:30 am. Had it in and pretty much buttoned up by noon.
Then Rob proceeded to go get the 69 Dart (engine picture posted earlier) and put that engine in this evening too. Did I say that Rob is awesome??!!
Really, my brother-in-law has stood beside me through this entire process; the first build/install, the chemo treatments and Dr's visits and the 2nd build and install......and he has not batted an eye! I am blessed! Thank you brother!
I am sorry if any of you are uncomfortable with my post, but hey....this is my life right now.
I will post some NEW pictures that may look like OLD pictures, but they are not. I also took some pics of the engine in the 69 Dart and of the underside fab work of the Dart for you to enjoy. Thanks for your continued prayers and kind comments.
We will fire her tomorrow and move onward and upward! Best, Chip
 

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Some more pics from today and a couple of the Dart......
 

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