Air Compressor advice

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ValiantMike

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I'm getting ready to buy a air compressor for my garage. I'll be using it for air tools, spray painting car, etc.. I really don't know much about them and would like to ask some of you with more knowledge if you could make any recommendations as far as tank size, hp, make, etc., so I don't end up buying something I won't be happy with. I'd like to get one that is 110v if possible. Other than that I"m not sure. I'd sure appreciate any advice anyone would like to share. Thanks Mike
 
The bigger the better. Mine is only 4hp and 12 gallons. As soon as I pull the trigger of my grinders or DA sander its running again to fill the tank up. It works but who wants to listen to a compressor runn all the time. Persoannly If I could afford it I would get something about 50 gallons.
 
Buy the most compressor you can afford and make sure it runs on 220 if you want to do a decent amount of work. Even with my 6hp/60gal we can get it kicked on pretty quick if we're running two tools at the same time. Get a two-stage if you can afford it. DO NOT get an oilless. It should have a cast iron pump.
 
Mike, don't waste your time and money on a 110v unit. Go for a 220v model with at least a 60 gal tank and preferably a 2-stage compressor head and a 5 HP motor. Be careful of the motor ratings because a lot of companys are listing the peak startup rating, which is a long way from the actual running horsepower. A good 5 HP motor should be rated at 3450 rpm, and should draw 22+ amps. If the Amp draw rating is below 20, then they are probably trying to sell you a product that won't serve you all that well. If you can't spring for the 2-stage, then make sure you at least get an Iron head twin cylinder model. Most of the HVLP spray guns today require huge ammounts of air (CFM) to do an overall paint job, so don't spend money on a compressor that won't eventually do the most important job for you - a quality paint job. :) Hope this helps.
 
Thanks guys, this is the info I'm looking for. I'll go ahead and search for a 220
with an iron head. What does the 2 stage mean? Mike
 
If you look at the compressor a two-stage will have two different size cylinders. They are able to compress to about 175psi, whereas the single stage (still two cylinder) only compress to about 125psi. They do this by compressing the same air a second time.
 
Aha, thanks Jim. I have just one more question.(sorry). Should I consider PSIs or CFMs in this, or is this answered with gallons and hp? Thanks Mike
 
Make sure it is a oil bath/dipper type, not an oil free. An oil free will burn up with constant use, plus they are alot louder than oil bath types. You want one that has a big cfm capability, that way it only needs to run for a short time for it to recover. Sometimes they have a recovery time from time of pressure drop to recovery. Make sure it is a model or maker you can get part's for in the future. Not some fly by night make. Take note of the cylinders if they have cooling fins, along with the lines and other parts on the outside, i.e. pressure switch is it adjustable? tank pressure gauge/line out pressure, warranty on the tank?, etc.. it's like buying a car that should last a lifetime. The two stage is really the best, unless you want to go with a three or four but for general use they are way overkill. On a two stage the larger cylinder feeds a high pressure to a smaller cylinder which then typically doubles the pressure on compression. Basically like a twin turbo setup. A great addition to a nice compressor is a great regulator/drier setup, don't go cheap here, just because you need a regulator that will control at high rates of flow, and not be a restriction. And spend a couple bucks on a automatic water drain for the tank.
 
Boy, am I glad that I checked with you guys first. I really appreciate this help. I'm going to start looking right away. Once again, thanks alot. Mike
 
I suggest a gas powered compressor. I had a 5HP (220v) Sears oil less with a 60 gal tank, and that was under powered and didnt last more than 1/1/2 years. I found on E-bay a 9.0 HP Honda Gas Engine, Three Cylinder Compressor, 30 Gal Horizontal Tank... Manufactured by a company called "PUMA" Simply put.. I love it, It can handle anything I throw at it. It puts out about 20 SCFM and I paid $900 for it (used) It's also small enough that I can pick it up with the engine crane and set it in my pick-up bed for air power any where I want it. And since it's a Honda motor... It idles quiet as a /6. If you decide gas power go with a Honda usually a 1 pull start.

Hope this helps, Eric
 
Mike, to answer your PSI / CFM question - CFM is the key to it all. Any compressor, given enough time, can build up pressure (PSI) but the time it takes to do so (CFM), is the real test factor. A standard HVLP spray gun will run on about 23-29 PSI, but most of them will require a steady 11-14 CFM. If you're doing an overall paint job, it has to be able to maintain this CFM rating for the complete job, or your paint finish will suffer.
 

i have been looking also, and everyone here is spot on! The pumas you can find from harbor frieght...im going with a husky 60g. for $400 i the store at home depot..way better than sears!!!

A solid CAST IRON, twin cylinder compressor pump for extreme durability. Offers 135 PSI maximum pressure and air delivery 11.5/10.2 SCFM @ 40/90 PSI. It also has a space saving vertical design that is perfect for your home garage or work shop.

• Up to 5,000 hours of extended life
• A CAST IRON oil-lubricated pump with traditional design that is quieter and longer lasting
• 60 Gallon vertical, space saving tank design
• Powerful, 3.2 running horsepower motor provides significant air to multiple power tools
• Automotive style changeable air filter
• Protective belt guard
• High quality oversized gauges
• 1070 Pump RPM
• Three-year limited warranty
• Over 35 percent quieter and 60 degrees cooler than aluminum pumps with cast iron sleeves


http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDU...ID=ccddaddimmiedfecgelceffdfgidgng.0&MID=9876

its $400 in my store..

Steve
 
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