Aluminum heads
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j par
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yellow rose
Overnight Sensation
Yes I would. Your not understanding how cylinder head limited these engines are. All of them. Chrysler stuff especially. That's why Chrylser used longer rods and shorter strokes than everyone else. Their induction systems needed it.
So yes, I'd tell him to buy the heads and cam it accordingly. He'll be much better off. In the now and the long run.
Ok knew this would stir the pot. I’m gonna buy the heads regardless. But don’t want to hurt them. I have two 318 motors. One in a truck and one in a dart. It’s kinda a long story. The dart has a cam of some form or fashion idk. The truck is newly rebuilt. It’s gonna be trial and error. I wont need bigger than a 2.02 valve. (I think). I posted this cause if you read the thread I want a stroker. Basically I’m gonna play with what I got till I get there. But now I’m not sure the heads will fit a 318 because of the bore and valve size. Now don’t get me wrong. When I pull the trigger on the heads I’m gonna buy the ones for .700 if lift. I’m NOT gonna buy another set of heads.
j par
Well-hung Member
LOL..
Keep asking questions...
j par
Well-hung Member
You'll be in for a big surprise when you're cam guy doesn't even want to talk about the lift and wants to discuss the duration with you...
j par
Well-hung Member
And this is not an all-out trailer drag effort correct?..
318WILLRUN....... wink wink....
I think I just said this to somebody about bigger valves not always being better, but I got the good old disagree button.....
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OUCH!!!! that one burned... LOL
j par
Well-hung Member
this is the post he won't show you because it doesn't coincide with what he's trying to make you believe...
speak'n of heads.... didn't I just say to you your 2.02's vs my 1.92's aren't the tell all? Valve size doesn't always mean a better flowing head??? What did I get, the big ole' disagree button. Don't make me post the quote....
ANd it is true, you bolted dual quads on a 318, why not good heads?
j par
Well-hung Member
Go get your posts and spend your time the way you want to lol...speak'n of heads.... didn't I just say to you your 2.02's vs my 1.92's aren't the tell all? Valve size doesn't always mean a better flowing head??? What did I get, the big ole' disagree button. Don't make me post the quote....
ANd it is true, you bolted dual quads on a 318, why not good heads?
I bought a dual quad tunnel ram for $450 that I still have to this day it's a non wearing part..
Just because you're buying a $600 van and putting the $5, 000 stereo in it doesn't mean everyone else thinks that's a good idea...
Do I have to quote the post again where remember has 5K into trick flows and a bigger cam and bigger carburetor and only picked up a tenth of a second?
Same old story me constantly trying not to get people to spend their money and the rest of the forum rooting them on..
Yeah go ahead buy them buy them, it ain't my money...
j par
Well-hung Member
Now that we've basically went on to the subject of him having a little fun with what he has until he can afford something how about going down this Avenue and just getting$400 into a small nitrous kit and have fun....
LOL.... well, to tell you the truth, I've been porting again. Not my heads though.....
j par
Well-hung Member
Would you like to tell us something..
sure..... over all the years of porting, i'm a little burnt out. For real, I think i'll start buying heads, like pro comp/EQ's/etc. Hobby has to = fun. When the "fun" leaves a part, then that "part" has to be replaced, and looks like head porting may have fallen into that bracket
j par
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I put a few days into my heads way back when I'm sure there's pictures on the forum and all that, you know how we do..
I didn't care for it all when I did it and don't care to think about doing it again. I worked into many machine shops with grinders and I had my fill..
j par
Well-hung Member
What wait a minute!?.. did you just say your next set of heads are going to be Procomp?..
j par
Well-hung Member
Well it's taking a while but you're finally starting to follow my example...lol..
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...Wyrmrider
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Let's get back on track
per OP's comment about 700 lift and etc
get the head with the correct springs for the cam you are going to run
you are going to have to buy new springs with the new cam for the stroker anyway as I doubt they will be the same
same with the valves
no reason to go big on the intake with a 318 (depending on rpm ignore if this is a trailer build)
exhaust is big enough or too big anyway
you might want to pick the cam first if you are going to change it rpm range and all that
I'd suggest converting to solids somewhere along the line- now or later
forget valve to block interference on the 318
it's the combustion chamber overhang = flow out of the intake hitting the top of the bore that needs the notch
measure twice cut once
and go easy on the headers you do not need 1 7/8 tubes and 3" collectors
the heads will be a good investment
you will need less cam with the new heads (to get the same intake charge)
per OP's comment about 700 lift and etc
get the head with the correct springs for the cam you are going to run
you are going to have to buy new springs with the new cam for the stroker anyway as I doubt they will be the same
same with the valves
no reason to go big on the intake with a 318 (depending on rpm ignore if this is a trailer build)
exhaust is big enough or too big anyway
you might want to pick the cam first if you are going to change it rpm range and all that
I'd suggest converting to solids somewhere along the line- now or later
forget valve to block interference on the 318
it's the combustion chamber overhang = flow out of the intake hitting the top of the bore that needs the notch
measure twice cut once
and go easy on the headers you do not need 1 7/8 tubes and 3" collectors
the heads will be a good investment
you will need less cam with the new heads (to get the same intake charge)
j par
Well-hung Member
Did I just see you tell him to buy a heads according to the springs they have?
We better get started on this magic 700 lift number he's fot up in his head and what's that going to do for him..
Wyrmrider
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He's not going for 700 lift on the 318
that's for the future stroker he's configuring
that's for the future stroker he's configuring
lead69
hopeless car junkie
This is irrelevant really,as many things as he changed and who knows what his heads flowed before,cam size,nothing and this has nothing to do with replacing stock heads for trickflows. I really don't know why you are so against the trickflows but they are a superior quality head and to get a chinese head to flow as well you will be in them the same money or more and that's not including spring,valve and or guide upgrades. The heads you have are fine but just like a cheap set of headers there are better quality parts available for more money.Use what works within the budget you have and enjoy but there is no reason to hate on parts that cost more money and are better quality.
j par
Well-hung Member
I don't hate trick flow heads, and the word Chinese doesn't scare me...
lead69
hopeless car junkie
Well I apologise if I am wrong,it just seems you are more skeptical of trick flows then the heads you have. It's good you are not scared of Chinese parts,we all got a lot of Chinese made stuff and I wouldn't hesitate to buy the heads you did for what you paid if I was building a milder engine or was on a seriously tight budget.If edelbrock would price the rpms realistically or add a couple features to them they would be a great replacement head as well. Once you step up in flow/spring requirements etc. that's when the trickflow is hard to beat for the money.
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